Crafarmer Fay

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1. Policy Parrot 1

   29 September 2011 at 4:10 pm

   “Sir Michael’s role in the controversial sales has been forgotten.”
   Case of Waikato Times editor interviewing their typewriter for that anecdote?
   I certainly haven’t fucking forgotten. And consider the uproar around his daughter seeking funding from NZ on Air when the Fay’s have already arguably received enough favours, I doubt whether New Zealanders more generally have forgotten either.
   • marsman 1.1

     29 September 2011 at 5:29 pm

     Yes and every time I take a long distance train I think of the wonderful updated fast service we could have had if Fay and Richwhite at al had not sucked the guts out of it.
   • Ianupnorth 1.2

     29 September 2011 at 7:27 pm

     You beat me to the “how come his darling Annabel got $50K from NZ on air when there are kids going hungry?”
     • Anne 1.2.1

       29 September 2011 at 8:44 pm

       Which reminds me, wasn’t John Key’s daughter given a scholarship to study fashion design in Paris, even though her father was capable of financing her himself? Had he done so it would have presumably given another young woman the opportunity to study design in Paris too.
       • Lanthanide 1.2.1.1

         29 September 2011 at 11:25 pm

         Depends, some ‘scholarships’ are really ‘admission to a school that will also pay some of your fees for you’. In other words you don’t get into the school at all without the scholarship, so we can’t be sure that if she hadn’t gotten the scholarship she still could have studied in the same place in Paris.

         Having said that, though, if there was anyone who could pull strings you’d think it would be a millionaire PM. That’s probably how she got the scholarship in the first place (or the school was brown-nosing), and of course Key didn’t get rich by turning down free money…
2. tc 2

   29 September 2011 at 10:35 pm

   Beware the bankers kids…..the’re not good for you or your kids health.
3. Jum 3

   30 September 2011 at 12:52 am

   What is the Fay group intending to do with the farms?
   • Colonial Viper 3.1

     30 September 2011 at 1:15 am

     Sell them off (to whoever) at a profit.

     its very unlikely that Michael Fay is looking forwards to retirement as a dairy farmer eh.
     • Jum 3.1.1

       30 September 2011 at 2:02 am

       True, Colonial Viper.

       I always believed that in the hands of Landcorp they could be more valuable for youth apprenticeships – horticulture, dairying, etc.

       Or has Landcorp been sold off already?
4. insider 4

   30 September 2011 at 1:11 am

   Think you have a rogue zero in there – pretty sure the Chinese bid is 30 mill more not 300m.

   Got to remember these farms failed under nz ownership in many ways – financially, environmentally and in animal welfare. Local is not automatically better.
   • Colonial Viper 4.1

     30 September 2011 at 1:20 am

     Local is not automatically better.

     Whereas foreign automatically means that profits and goods are shunted outside of NZ control.

     Such an improvement. Keep campaigning against your fellow NZers though.
   • Frank Macskasy 4.2

     3 October 2011 at 12:45 am

     It’s actually closer to $40 million, and Crafar failed because they were over-leveraged, due to easy credit ballooning property prices in NZ.

     However, if the Chinese government wants long-term food security and isn’t interested in profits, it makes perfect sense to buy up as much arable land as possible, and not worry about cost. As I outline in my piece, http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/the-second-colonisation-of-new-zealand/
     • Draco T Bastard 4.2.1

       3 October 2011 at 4:10 am

       Yep, but there’s no way that China can get food security. They have far too many people and even by buying up fertile land in other nations they will still starve unless they militarily invade as those other nations, us included, will be using the land to support themselves once resources, especially cheap petrol-chemicals and its derivatives, become scarce over the next few years.
       • Frank Macskasy 4.2.1.1

         3 October 2011 at 7:36 am

         Interesting points, Draco.

         * China is expanding it’s naval power.

         * The US has used military power in the Middle East to protect it’s interests.

         * China is increasing it’s influence in the Pacific.

         * US influence may be at risk, as it’s economic problems threaten to cripple it.

         Anyway, I have one more piece of research to do on Shanghai Pengxin.
5. Sanctuary 5

   30 September 2011 at 7:56 am

   The right wingers I know (who like all good right wingers think wealth is its own justification) admire Fay for taking the main chance as a corrupt mercenary and making out like a bandit then scarpering to live the life of Riley with Gnomes of Zurich. Everyone else I know thinks Fay’s name is a synonym for traitor and he should be put on trial and imprisoned.

   No one – right, centre or left – I know would trust Michael Fay with a Tip-Top icecream container holding the cake stall money.

   And using taxpayers money to inflict his daughter’s truly appalling album on us all was just the icing on the cake.
6. HC 6

   1 October 2011 at 1:13 am

   CRAPFARMER FAY is a man of integrity, of honour, of dignity, a saviour of Aoetearoa NZ, he is a reborn nationalist, a truly compassionate and solidarious man of greatest respect, we must honour him, eventhough he once betrayed NZ. He is now a reborn Christian, seeking well being of us all. A man of true honour, a great hero, a man who made money and gave it away the next day. Do you believe all this? Then you may as well believe in Father Christmas and Mother Mary’s virgin birth. Wow, NZ is evolving, getting ahead, maturing and getting on track now. People stand for principles they never thought about, they are dignified, patriotic and will only thing of the good for all now. We do not want to sell to the Chinese, because our capitalists are so much better. Hooray!
7. HC 7

   1 October 2011 at 1:15 am

   After having said the above a bit “tongue in Cheek”, I may honestly reveal, that never ever did I get a job paid by a NZ born and raised employer, which valued me as an employee, appreciated my skills and abilities and paid me a fair wage or salary. The first employer in NZ who ever paid me a fair and good wage or salary was actually a person from my native country who had established his own business here and saw some value in me. Thank you NZ!
8. Frank Macskasy 8

   3 October 2011 at 12:36 am

   There’s more to this issue than meets the eye. This involves more than what we may feel about Michael Fay… http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/the-second-colonisation-of-new-zealand/
   • Jum 8.1

     3 October 2011 at 12:47 am

     Fay is being called a ‘corporate warrior’?

     Is that politik speak for SOE assets thief?

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