Gregor Medvesek, has released an English translation of Andres Lignitzer’s wresting treatise. Gregor is an instructor of the Schola Pugnatoria along with Igor Sancin, whom I had the pleasure of meeting in Dijon in 2011. Gregor says that there is really no information on Lignitzer’s life or death but that he is mentions in many treatises and was mentioned a a master by Paulus Kal
The text on wrestling according to Lignitzer is preserved only in three fighting manuals: in the before mentioned Codex Danzig (Cod.44.A.8; Biblioteca dell’Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei e Corsiniana, Rim), in Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS_E. 1939.65.341, Glasgow museums, Glasgow) and in so called Goliath (MS Germ. Quart 2020; Biblioteka Jagiellońska, Krakov). Since the text from Danzig is the most thorough, this translation is based on it. However, I took into consideration the other two versions as well and explained the most significant differences in the footnotes.
The entire article can be found here: http://scholapugnatoria.si/?page_id=967
One of the techniques I found interesting was the following:
The third technique
When you clinch up at the arms as before, make sure that your left hand is on the inside of his right arm and that your right hand is on the outside of his left arm. Strike his left hand from underneath with your right hand so that you have it on your right shoulder. Spring with your right leg in front of his left leg and wrap your right arm from the outside around his left arm. Help your right arm with your left hand and turn yourself away from him to your left side.
This is a method of moving to Fiore’s remedy, and following it up with the first technique. it turns into a shoulder crank and with the proper action a dislocation.
Now for the fun part.
The counter
When someone does this to you and pushes your left arm on his neck, slip your left arm over his head and in front of his chest. Grab his left arm with your left hand and reach behind his right knee from the outside with your right hand. Lift his knee joint up and push him down to your left side with your left arm. This is how you throw him on his back.
I have typically explained a counter to the remedy as a single arm throw, (See the 6th wrestling) rather than the knee lift and dump, but this works as well (perhaps better as the natural turning of the opponents body is not counter to the action as the single arm throw is)
But as Fiore would have it, he provides a counter to the counter by way of his third play. As the opponent slips his left arm over your head and reaches for your left arm, you shoot your right arms across his neck and use your left arm to lift his knee. The pics even show the opponents left hand grabbing your left arm.
The problem we have as historical martial artists is that Fiore didn’t say why your opponent might seek to remove his arm from your neck, other than he didn’t want it broken. I try to give a reason for the person to do so, especially a reason that ends in that person winning. In wrestling opponents are seeking advantages, and you must provide one if you want the technique to have any real meaning.