Wall Nuts: Ozzy Man’s New Mega Quiz Video and More Quick Draw fun

Our favorite Aussie fan, Ozzy Man, has a new interactive “Mega Game of Thrones Quiz” video to help assuage our never ending thirst for GoT related content.  How far can you go in the Mega Quiz?

Also for our viewing pleasure, Vanity Fair has released the last three of the “Quick Draw Life of” Videos.  The videos for Joffrey, Robb and Ygritte are below the cut.

Life of Joffrey:

 

Life of Robb:

 

Life of Ygritte:

We hope you enjoy our Comedy Roundup whilst we await Season 5.

122 Comments

  1. This “cunt” is fucking awesome. Love his videos, already done this quiz when he released it on his facebook page. Loved his Walking Dead reviews too, until he stopped doing them, and rightly so… that show is starting to piss me off too. I’m giving it until this finale of Season 5 to revive my faith in the show.

  2. The quiz is ridiculously easy… until the last question.

    That’s where I failed. In the very last question 🙁

  3. This was the most amount of time I’ve ever been able to enjoy Ozzy Man. He’s funny… but his show analysis is on par with a drunken cunt.

  4. I love the little Vanity Fair drawings. They’re so cute! And thanks to WotW and Ozzy Man for killing a little more time in this looooong wait.

    Speaking of Oz…will we be getting any more posts from our own Oz in the next couple of weeks?

  5. Mustafa. S.:
    This “cunt” is fucking awesome. Love his videos, already done this quiz when he released it on his facebook page. Loved his Walking Dead reviews too, until he stopped doing them, and rightly so… that show is starting to piss me off too. I’m giving it until this finale of Season 5 to revive my faith in the show.

    The walking dead stopped being good a long time ago. I still watch hoping to get better but I’m coming to the conclusion of how shitty the writers are.

  6. I need help finding a Nicolaj-Coaster Waldau season 2 interview.

    It’s the interview where he states that he has a spoiler that book readers will understand.

    The reason I’m asking for this is to temper the expectations of people digging to deep into Nicolaj’s latest “duck” spoiler.

    For the record the season 2 spoiler ended being a “poor old dead ned” joke Jaime made to Cat Stark in episode 7

  7. After you ace the quiz (except for the last question, dammit!) go back and click on wrong answers and have Ozzy berate you or look at you dumbfoundedly. Funny guy.

  8. Yung Wolf,

    Yeah let’s see how D&D actually are with Season 6 & 7 with no source material. I have a feeling we’re going to end up with a lot more “smash the beetles” type scenes. I honestly hate how they included that scene (which cost around 4 minutes and took out the scene which validates why Tyrion would even go up to take out his Father and Shae (and complicates his relationship with his brother). Which gives me the feeling; based on my analysis of that scene

    Jamie will die this season, and they didn’t want him to die leaving Tyrion with “bad terms”.
  9. the Ozzy man quiz was very easy till the last two questions where I had to go back to the books for the name of the guy who was killed first. and the show for how many ships.

  10. I got to the question about who was Tyrion’s champion and I clicked on the correct answer but it kept kicking me back to the beginning. I enjoyed what parts I did get through though. “A. Dickhead, B. Dickhead, C. Dickhead……” LMAO

  11. Mustafa. S.: took out the scene that validates why Tyrion would even go up to take out his Father and Shae (and complicates his relationship with his brother).

    Yeah, what possible reason would Tyrion have to go confront Tywin? Oh, other than the fact that he put him in prison, gave him a kangaroo trial and sentenced him to death, after a lifetime of abuse and neglect, I guess there’s practically nothing.

    Of all the common criticisms of season 4, that one is probably the dumbest.

  12. Yivo: Oh, other than the fact that he put him in prison, gave him a kangaroo trial and sentenced him to death, after a lifetime of abuse and neglect, I guess there’s practically nothing.

    As an Australian I can assure you we don’t put our kangaroos on trial. Sure some of them get sentenced to death but we don’t even bother with pretending to give them a fair trial.

    Also I fully agree with the fact that Tyrion still had plenty of reasons (even if a major one was missing) and have yet to come across an unsullied who felt it didn’t work. The closest one of them came was asking me why he didn’t kill Cersei too as they both had it coming in equal measure. Sure I would have preferred that it stayed in, but I would also have preferred that Asha wasn’t renamed Yara. It’s not exactly a big deal to me.

  13. If GoT had been made in Australia in the 90s, the theme song may well have been More Than A Game.

  14. Dame Pasty:
    I got to the question about who was Tyrion’s champion and I clicked on the correct answer but it kept kicking me back to the beginning.I enjoyed what parts I did get through though.“A.Dickhead, B.Dickhead, C. Dickhead……”LMAO

    That means you got the question wrong. Tyrion’s first champion was Bronn

  15. Chickenduck,

    If GoT had been made in Australia in the 90s, it would have been painfully unwatchable. Though some of the Essos scenes could have worked, maybe.

  16. Luka Nieto,

    And there’s no indication,, other than the redditor’s wishful thinking, that they’d play father and son. Their roles are probably entirely unrelated.

  17. Congrats Oz on the quiz that must have been a bitch to put together. May you and Natalie Dormer co-host many an event yet to come!

  18. Yivo: Yeah, what possible reason would Tyrion have to go confront Tywin? Oh, other than the fact that he put him in prison, gave him a kangaroo trial and sentenced him to death, after a lifetime of abuse and neglect, I guess there’s practically nothing.

    Of all the common criticisms of season 4, that one is probably the dumbest.

    The reasons Tyrion had, no matter what they were (he already had those reasons, they were not new, and he has lived with them his whole life and had got used to them, as much as he hated his father, he wouldn’t risk his life – which mind you has just been saved, unless he had a “new” reason)… He’s a smart individual, and smart individuals don’t make “dumb” decisions unless they’re angry or horny.

    The reason he went up the red-keep, rather than immediately escape in the books, was because he had just gotten so angry to find out that not only did his father lie to him but his brother too (the only person he truly trusted, even with his life, had just betrayed him; and all because of his father) this scar cut too deep. He decided to go up and not only risk getting caught and dying himself but getting Jamie killed too if he got caught… All to confront the man who had ruined his entire life. To add insult to injury he finds Shae there too, and luckily for him, no Tywin, and a crossbow to use.

    In the show, having omitted the back story that Jamie gives him, even if Tyrion was so pissed to risk his own life, he wouldn’t risk getting his brother Jamie killed who had just risked everything to save him in the show and hugged him too instead of “the confession” (THUS giving him a MAJOR reason NOT to go up). To spell it out to you; logically with the way the show done it, Tyrion, out of his eternal love and respect for the person who had just saved his life, and trusted him in everything; wouldn’t go up to do what he done in the books.

    Do you get what I mean now? There’s TWO illogical decisions they made with that scene! And it’s horrendous. So next time don’t call this a dumb argument. If you’re unable to understand why it’s “dumb” to make Tyrion do what he did without that “back story”.

  19. Mustafa. S.,

    The whole being framed for murder and sentenced to death thing is the new. He didn’t live with that his whole life. Can you not see that as a reason for him to be furious? Because I can.

  20. Mustafa. S.: he already had those reasons, they were not new, and he has lived with them his whole life and had got used to them

    Yeah, he was totally put on trial, in jail and sentenced to death multiple times in the past. Nonsense.

    He’s a smart individual, and smart individuals don’t make “dumb” decisions unless they’re angry or horny.

    What, smart people only make bad decisions in the spur of the moment? This is just completely wrong. He clearly was angry. You can hear it when he speaks to Tywin about the trial. More nonsense.

    The reason he went up the red-keep, rather than immediately escape in the books, was because he had just gotten so angry to find out that not only did his father lie to him but his brother too (the only person he truly trusted, even with his life, had just betrayed him; and all because of his father) this scar cut too deep. He decided to go up and not only risk getting caught and dying himself but getting Jamie killed too if he got caught… All to confront the man who had ruined his entire life. To add insult to injury he finds Shae there too, and luckily for him, no Tywin, and a crossbow to use.

    Yes, thank you for the recap. This is completely irrelevant when talking about the show though.

    In the show, having omitted the back story that Jamie gives him, even if Tyrion was so pissed to risk his own life, he wouldn’t risk getting his brother Jamie killed who had just risked everything to save him in the show and hugged him too instead of “the confession” (THUS giving him a MAJOR reason NOT to go up).

    Jaime would never in a million years have been executed. Did you watch any of the Tywin-Jaime scenes? Or Cersei-Jaime scenes for that matter.

    Do you get what I mean now? There’s TWO illogical decisions they made with that scene! And it’s horrendous. So next time don’t call this a dumb argument. If you’re unable to understand why it’s “dumb” to make Tyrion do what he did without that “back story”.

    Nope, still a very dumb argument. If the crux of your argument is that people are always logical in cases like this, it’s super dumb.

  21. So Jamie, who is responsible for releasing his brother (who was sentenced to death); who then goes on attempting to kill his father, was under “NO” threat?

    Jamie promised to abandon the Kings Guard (KG) and go to CR and get married; IF his brother would be allowed to live and take the black (that’s no longer the case, he’s still sworn to the KG).

    It’s very simple really if you know the characters. Tyrion wouldn’t have risked his brother’s life (who had just bloody saved him), if his brother hadn’t given him a reason (confession) to do so.

    I can’t emphasise this point more really. His brother just GAVE him his life (which was about to be taken from him by his father) I see your point here that Tyrion is pissed about his father sentencing him to death (but he’s probably more pissed off with Cercei).

    In the books however, his brother GAVE him his life back (which was about to be taken away from him) and just as he’s grateful for it.. It gets taken away from him again, and then stabbed in the back too by that very personal (via the confession)… By this point Tyrion had lost all hope of life.

    Thus he does what he does. Think about what I said again; if you were Tyrion… Would you risk YOUR life (which has just been given to you again) and your brothers (who just saved you based on the shows logic, and given you no reason to back stab him) just so you can confront your father?

  22. Mustafa. S.,

    In his situation, considering his character and state of mind?

    Yes.

    Also, it’s not like he’s condemning his brother. I mean, he’s killing Jaime’s father as well as his, and that’s fucked up, but Jaime isn’t gonna be discovered and Tyrion has no reason to think he will.

    Anyway. The decisive points you keep ignoring remains:

    No Unsullied has had any trouble understanding Tyrion’s motivations. Only book readers have. This points to Tysha’s omission being a change that bothers book readers because it is a change and an omission, not because it fucks up the logic of the show itself. No one —except book readers expecting Tysha— was confused about Tyrion’s motivation. Please, consider that.

  23. Mustafa. S.,

    I would say that even though Jaime did that, neither Cersei nor Tywin would ever have him executed. For Tywin, Jaime is his only real son and heir, his legacy, which he values more than anything. Cersei loves Jaime more than anything, except maybe her children. These two hold all the power, and therefore Jaime would almost certainly be fine.

  24. Mustafa. S.,

    Yeah, I don’t really see Jaime’s life in danger either, especially since at the time Tyrion decided to go and confront Tywin it didn’t seem like the actually killing of him was decided (Shae pushed him over the edge there). So we have a case of either Tyrion decided the beloved son was not in mortal danger as a result of Tyrion getting some answers out of his father (pretty plausible) or Jaime’s safety simply didn’t occur to Tyrion in his anger (again pretty plausible). Then the Shae bit happens and he gets even angrier and does Tywin in. So to answer your question, in Tyrion’s place I absolutely would have gone up to confront Tywin. Not saying it would be the smartest move, but I’d be pissed off enough.

  25. I see your points guys (the strongest being that the unsullied didn’t complain about the logic behind why Tyrion did what he did)…

    But to me, as I’ve understood Tyrion (as a character)… That confession from Jamie was pivotal in forcing him to make the decision to confront his father. Without that confession (which acts both as a source of motivation to confront his father, and a betrayal by the person he trusts most) I personally believe with absolute certainty that Tyrion as a character wouldn’t have risked what he risked.

    This is evident in his character (Tyrion) reminiscing about Jamie, his confession, and the content of the confession (Tysha) throughout the entirety of his chapters in ADWD.
  26. Mustafa. S.,

    I think the problem is that you’re not separating the characters of book Tyrion and show Tyrion. You’re absolutely right about Tyrion’s motivation in the books, but you can’t use his internal thoughts within the book to determine how he should react in the show. You need to remove all thoughts about the books from your mind when watching the show and watch it based on it’s own narrative. You’ll probably enjoy it more.

  27. Mustafa. S.,

    Also I’m guessing you’ve not suffered serious long term betrayal by a family member. If I’m wrong then I’m truly sorry. To give you an idea of the kind of anger that can be pent up, try imagining what it’s like to not be able to watch Finding Nemo because it fills you with rage at it’s incentive and irresponsible manipulation of children, tricking them into believing that a father would actually be capable of loving them enough to give two shits when they went missing and how the very idea would result in millions of children being crushed when they learnt the horrible truth. That was from watching a children’s cartoon. When you get to that level of thinking try telling me what Tyrion would and wouldn’t do when his father was actively trying to have him killed.

  28. Of the Night,

    That’s the whole point; knowing who Tyrion really is as a character, as an individual; he should be grateful to the brother who just saved his life and has given him no reason to betray his trust/love for him… The show made him contradict his own logic (but to understand his logic, you need to understand his inner-thoughts, and to understand his inner-thoughts, you need to have read the books). So I understand what you’re saying, but you can’t tell me to watch the show and forget what I know from the books (that’s impossible, you can’t really do that if you’re a “book wanker”).

    Tyrion didn’t confront Catalyn or Lysa after he got his life back last time (via trial by combat)… He walked out with a smile on his face.

  29. Mustafa. S.,

    Catelyn and Lysa are not his father. He was grateful to Jaime in the show, in fact the love there was pretty obviously shown. He simply did not make a connection regarding the safety of his brother and confronting his father. Finally , to understand his logic you have to not read the books. They are clouding things by locking you into preconceived notions of what he is thinking. Book Tyrion and show Tyrion are not the same person and that is why you cannot come to terms with this. Your problem is that his actions in the show do not line up with his thought processes in the books. What I’m trying to say is that they’re not meant to because they are not the same person.

  30. Of the Night,

    I will agree to disagree. This is an adaptation; yes it should have creative freedom, but to me personally, D&D have failed to capture the essence of some characters and who they are… You can change stories, do different things, but you shouldn’t change what makes this/that character who they are (their personalities). Because that’s what you’re trying to capture, not the story, not spoilers, not the changes… you’re trying to capture the characters and see why they do the things they do… It’s especially essential when you’re making an adaptation of a Song of Ice and Fire to do exactly that…

    That’s my opinion, and I’ll continue to watch the show, and I give D&D a lot of credit for a lot of things they’ve done & still doing, but I do criticise them when I feel they’ve messed things up and I personally feel that was a major hole in show.

  31. Of the Night,

    What if Tywin was in bed or sitting at his desk instead of being out of the room? Tyrion wouldve basically lost his freedom again at that point because I doubt hed be able to overpower tywin and for what? So that he could ask him why? I mean hed be putting himself and Jaime at risk with a very slim chance of escape he was basically going back to be executed by going in that room it was dumb luck he wasnt caught. He didnt have that much motivation to give up his life at that point.

  32. Mustafa. S.:
    So I understand what you’re saying, but you can’t tell me to watch the show and forget what I know from the books (that’s impossible, you can’t really do that if you’re a “book wanker”).

    Yes that is impossible. I can’t forget either. I can accept though that what I know is the truth in the books is not the truth in the show. Much like separating the truth of real life (dragons don’t exist) from the truth of the books and show (they do exist)

  33. Mustafa. S.,

    I too will agree to disagree. I actually would have preferred the book version of that scene, I’m just able accept that it still works internally. I watch the show for what it is, not what it was in another life.

  34. By the way, the beetle scene actually helps a little with the Tywin scene. It sets Tyrion up as someone who is motivated by a need to understand why. I doubt this will change any negative opinions on either scene but perhaps it will ease the pain slightly.

  35. Of the Night:
    By the way, the beetle scene actually helps a little with the Tywin scene. It sets Tyrion up as someone who is motivated by a need to understand why. I doubt this will change any negative opinions on either scene but perhaps it will ease the pain slightly.

    I think you missed the point… The beetles scene was there to show Tyrion as someone who WAS motivated to always want to know why? But realised after Orson died that sometimes there is no answer. There’s no point dwelling on something that’ll make you crazy trying to understand it and why it happened (hence his current position in prison)… That’s why when he asks Jamie, “so what do you think? Why did he do it?” it’s not because Tyrion knew the answer as to why Orson done what he done… But he’s basically asking Jamie “Why? Why am I in this place, in this position when I’m innocent? Why?” and Jamie answers “I don’t know”… Knowing full-well there is no logical answer to the question… It’s a sense of hopelessness… It’s reminiscing over an unsolvable problem, because he’s currently stuck in one…

    See as deep and as great this scene is… It’s something that most people knew, it didn’t reveal anything new about Tyrion. Anything that’ll really shape or change the way he will act and think from that moment onwards. The scene that was cut out however

    (Jamie confession/betrayal/tysha)

    that for me was more important than the exclusion of SH at the end of the episode.

  36. Mustafa. S.,

    I don’t understand your logic that Tyrion is somehow endangering Jaime if he gets caught. I mean, even if Tyrion decides to open the door and go on the boat, people are still going to wonder how he escaped, and assume someone helped him out. Are you saying that Tyrion would rat out Jaime if he were caught? Or that they would torture the information out of him? I don’t understand how Tywin and Cersei finding out someone let him escape at four in the morning is so different from them finding out someone let him escape a few hours later…

    Tyrion was absolutely risking his own life when he decided to pay Tywin a visit (and he’s lucky Tywin was occupied at the moment), but that’s all he was risking. And Tyrion has very little regard for his own life, verging on none, so he’s willing to gamble that away.

  37. So Spoilertv didn’t add those summaries as that poster said they would this weekend. Do y’all think that that confirms them to have been fake?

  38. Greenjones:
    So Spoilertv didn’t add those summaries as that poster said they would this weekend. Do y’all think that that confirms them to have been fake?

    The person that post the sypnosys came back in a different thread and said they will fix it. I don’t know what happened, probably fell asleep on the way to fix it? *shrugs*

  39. As someone who was Unsullied when I saw the ending to Season 4 (I have since read the books), I didn’t even question Tyrion’s motives for killing his father, and neither did my mother or brother (who are both still Unsullied). It made since to us.

    That said, I was (and still am) upset that they didn’t explain Shae’s actions.

  40. Tysha? That wench has not been relevant since Robb Stark was sucking on Mrs. Tullys nipples.

    Tyrion’s motivation on the show was crystal clear!
    You get thrown in a dungeon for a crime you did not commit, feel humiliated and abandone by everyone and to add on top that bullshit, you are sentence to death by your own father. What makes it worse is this hypocrite old fuck is banging your ex hoe too. My god.. If you don’t feel that man’s pain you haven’t been paying attention. Tyrion is no saint at all but the rage built up will happened within those lonely nights underground.

  41. Of the Night,

    That’s a very good way to interpret the scene , The fact that the next season is here and people still find all these underlying meanings shows how well written and well preformed it is . Too bad the purists are too caught up in what they didn’t get to appreciate what they already have.

  42. Hodor Targaryen:
    Mustafa. S.,

    I don’t understand your logic that Tyrion is somehow endangering Jaime if he gets caught. I mean, even if Tyrion decides to open the door and go on the boat, people are still going to wonder how he escaped, and assume someone helped him out. Are you saying that Tyrion would rat out Jaime if he were caught? Or that they would torture the information out of him? I don’t understand how Tywin and Cersei finding out someone let him escape at four in the morning is so different from them finding out someone let him escape a few hours later…

    Tyrion was absolutely risking his own life when he decided to pay Tywin a visit (and he’s lucky Tywin was occupied at the moment), but that’s all he was risking. And Tyrion has very little regard for his own life, verging on none, so he’s willing to gamble that away.

    1. So if Tyrion confronts his father, resulting in Tyrion getting caught (because he goes up with no weapon), and Varys stays in Kings Landing (or running away for his life). You think Tywin (who is probably one of the smartest characters) won’t figure out who helped Tyrion? I think if you ask a blind man who has been watching the show by that point and tell him someone let Tyrion escape (the first and ONLY name that comes to mind is Jamie)… No one else who gives two shits about Tyrion remained at Kings Landing to allow him to escape. And not only that, but someone who has access to the cells!

    Secondly – where on earth did you randomly pull that “time-frame” argument out from? Who said it would have been different if Tyrion had escaped a few hours later or a few hours earlier?

    Thirdly for those who keep using “he was sleeping with Shae” as an argument – firstly Tyrion doesn’t know that when he goes up, secondly this is the very person he loved and betrayed him… But does he even fucking ask Varys “hey mate can you tell me how to get to Shae through these secret passages?”… No he bloody asks for his father’s chambers… Because as deep as Shae’s betrayal was, it’s not half as deep as the confession Jamie makes and the betrayal he felt from that.

  43. Mustafa. S.:
    that show is starting to piss me off too. I’m giving it until this finale of Season 5 to revive my faith in the show.

    The walking dead has so much potential but the last couple of seasons is just the same story over and over , meet other group , get tricked , fight, kill , get killed , destroy enemy group , move on , theres only so many times you can do that before it gets tedious .

  44. The Night is dark and full of terrors is pretty correct for Northbridge in Perth LOL
    Although I don’t like to think of the shadow babies that are conceived in that place.

  45. smitzzz,

    I agree nothing gets me going ,more than someone that argues walking dead as a better show than game of thrones . The finale sucked last night , same shit . And there’s commercials . And that tells you how bad shows like shameless are. Every showtime show is just the worst anymore

  46. Of the Night:
    By the way, the beetle scene actually helps a little with the Tywin scene. It sets Tyrion up as someone who is motivated by a need to understand why. I doubt this will change any negative opinions on either scene but perhaps it will ease the pain slightly.

    That’s probably it.. I also like how it shows that after Orson’s death, if Tyrion doesn’t/can’t get the answer he wants, he’s fine with moving on, which is what he does to Tywin. While Jaime just didn’t feel like studying at all.. #quitter..

    Mustafa. S.: I think you missed the point…

    Anything that’ll really shape or change the way he will act and think from that moment onwards. The scene that was cut out however that for me was more important than the exclusion of SH at the end of the episode.

    Who knows, maybe show!Jaime was involved in the Tysha-deal exactly how Tyrion recalls it? “Father had Jaime tell me the truth, the girl was a whore you see. Jaime had arranged the whole thing.” Maybe “show!Tysha” WAS in fact a whore? I doubt he would blame Jaime, because his intentions were good in an adolescent way, and he would obviously blame himself a bit for getting in head over heels if the feelings for Tysha waned after finding out, but moreso his father for what he did with Tysha, despite she was a whore.

    If we never get stated otherwise in the show, who are we as bookreaders to assume otherwise? Just because we suppose that each character and their backstories must be the same in the show?

    As for getting Jaime into trouble, Tywin called that right the second he saw Tyrion in the privy. So you can use that as an argument that the show doesn’t make sense. Because whatever his intentions may have been, he didn’t seem to pose illwill to Jaime, yet still went headfirst into a situation that would discriminate Jaime all the same.

  47. smitzzz: The walking dead has so much potential but the last couple of seasons is just the same story over and over , meet other group , get tricked , fight, kill , get killed , destroy enemy group , move on , theres only so many times you can do that before it gets tedious .

    I couldn’t agree more… I’ll put what I’m going to say in spoiler tags in case walking dead people here still haven’t watched the finale.

    Yeah man by the looks of it, season six is going to be very similar with those two crazy fuckers we just met trying to invade the town next season. I haven’t read the comics, I still don’t get the “W” that’s on everyone’s forehead, so that’s pretty much the only thing keeping me interested in the show at the moment; I’m assuming it stands for “Washington” and someone or some group is trying to figure out how far each zombie pack will travel away from its location? I don’t know, I don’t want to know if you know the answer, in case the answer is out there… But apart from that, the way some main characters are getting out of situations at the perfect time (always) is really starting to frustrate me.

    If we never get stated otherwise in the show, who are we as bookreaders to assume otherwise? Just because we suppose that each character and their backstories must be the same in the show?

    I already answered that above & all your other questions… the conversation I had above was long, if you care to read it, do so… But again that’s my opinion and I understand that everyone has different opinions.

  48. So I totally failed the Sam & Gilly question because I’m a really mean asshole and Gilly is apparently not. Also mixed up Pyat Pree with the Ducksauce how embarrassing.

  49. Just did that quiz, had two questions wrong.. Cersei’s qualities and the amount of swords in the IT… Thought the answer to the Cersei question be something that she said to Sansa during Blackwater.. As for the IT.. I tend to forget showcontent easier then other content.

    Abyss:
    OT:
    Video interview with Kerry Ingram about season 5 and other stuff. Apparently Shireen was supposed to be an one season deal, which I find interesting and a bit odd to be honest.

    It’s not a surprise as Kerry is well liked by the producers if I recall correctly.. OR Grrm has spilled some beans on her importance..

    GreyPlague
  50. I just wanted to share that last night I went to the Atlanta Film Festival’s showing of season 5 episode 1 last night, and it was so very good to see Kevan and Lancel on screen again! I definitely got the impression that

    they were setting both characters up to be players/plot influencers this season. In particular, as Cersei leaves Kevan, the shot lingers on a closeup of him for a couple of seconds, then switches to a wide shot of him watching her walk away. It definitely gave the impression that he’s going to be keeping an eye on her.
  51. King Stannis: Greenjones:
    So Spoilertv didn’t add those summaries as that poster said they would this weekend. Do y’all think that that confirms them to have been fake?

    The person that post the sypnosys came back in a different thread and said they will fix it. I don’t know what happened, probably fell asleep on the way to fix it? *shrugs*

    Sorry about the slow reactions but I’m pretty sick right now with a nagging flu and dealing with site stuff hasn’t been top priority compared to real life. I followed the trail of the commenter’s IP which led to another post, which had used an email address. I checked that email address against other posts on this site, and found the person had posted under a few other names in the last few days. It seems to me like this person is

    a big LSH fan and is pushing that agenda, wanting people to support that she’ll turn up. And the summaries did support that.

    But it’s still funny- once Cogman corrected his writing credit, the rest of the credits were right, and checking with some sources, no one could say for certain that the summaries were definitely false.

    Which lead to me think that this person wrote the summaries (which were largely very vague) based on the

    leaked season 5 spoiler summaries that have been floating around sites like Reddit. And that that those summaries are largely accurate.
  52. As I’ve stated in the past, take any piece of unverified “spoiler” material with any kind of hint of LSH involvement (no matter how subtle) with a massive grain of salt. There are a group of fans that have for some reason, been going to great lengths to troll the fanbase about this and they’ve been getting extremely creative in doing so. It’s been going on for a year now and they’re very good at making the info look so innocuous that it could be legit. But they’ve got an agenda and it’s a very annoying one.

  53. Sue the Fury: But it’s still funny- once Cogman corrected his writing credit, the rest of the credits were right, and checking with some sources, no one could say for certain that the summaries were definitely false.

    I think he just got lucky with the credits. He already knew which episodes where directed by whom since that was announced, the last two episodes were always going to be D&D. That leaves 5 episodes, 3 of which he would have known were Cogman and Hill. He made an educated guess with the writing credits, and ultimately failed.

  54. Sue the Fury,

    That’s mildly disappointing, if only because for the most part those summaries sounded plausible and consistent with what we know about the overall outline of the season. The placement of certain significant events seemed to fit – which of course they would, if the poster in question was using actual spoilers and filming information to craft those summaries. I’m not sorry to have the report debunked, but ultimately, the real episodes will probably wind up looking fairly similar, give or take a few things – namely, anything related to that one character that people just can’t seem to let rest.

    King Tommen,

    At this point, when it comes to literally any allegedly leaked information that even suggests the existence of that character, the oft-cited defense that the “report” is too detailed, too specific, or too elaborate to be a hoax can safely be retired. Let no man or woman underestimate how far certain people will go in the service of this one ridiculously inane goal – whether it’s as simple as mocking up a set photo or as extensive as writing a detailed episode report using an abundance of genuine information to disguise the one rotten kernel that they’ve buried somewhere in the middle.

  55. Mustafa. S.,

    I don’t think you’re understanding me. If Tyrion goes up, and is captured, you’re right, Tywin is going to suspect Jaime freed him…but if Tyrion never goes up there, Tywin is still going to find out that Tyrion escaped the next day when no one is in his cell! And, again, Tywin is going to immediately suspect Jaime. That was my timeframe argument, Tywin was either going to suspect Jaime when Tyrion confronted him, or he was going to suspect Jaime the next day when it’s clear someone has helped Tyrion escape. Jaime’s in trouble no matter what, it’s just the timing of it that’s affected by Tyrion’s decision to go to his dad’s chambers.

  56. Hodor Targaryen:
    Mustafa. S.,

    I don’t think you’re understanding me. If Tyrion goes up, and is captured, you’re right, Tywin is going to suspect Jaime freed him…but if Tyrion never goes up there, Tywin is still going to find out that Tyrion escaped the next day when no one is in his cell! And, again, Tywin is going to immediately suspect Jaime. That was my timeframe argument, Tywin was either going to suspect Jaime when Tyrion confronted him, or he was going to suspect Jaime the next day when it’s clear someone has helped Tyrion escape. Jaime’s in trouble no matter what, it’s just the timing of it that’s affected by Tyrion’s decision to go to his dad’s chambers.

    Not if Varys leaves with Tyrion (both go missing at the same time)… It becomes clear who really freed Tyrion thus Jamie can act like he didn’t know anything. But I see your point and it’s a very good one. It raises another question. Would Varys have left or went into hiding anyway if Tywin wasn’t killed? I think he would have, whether or not Jamie gets implicated for the release, Varys is in danger. But yeah good point.

  57. Mustafa. S.,
    Hodor Targaryen,

    I’m highly interested in what will be said about Vanishing Varys by others in KL this season.

    And Varys’s secret return to KL should be most exciting! I’m almost expecting that the title of the last episode will be named “For the Realm” and not “For the Watch” because that is essentially what Varys is paving the way for during his closing ADwD deeds. That title would support several intriguing perspectives in progress at the end of ADwD.
  58. Mustafa. S.,

    The show needed to use Shae instead of Tysha as Tyrion’s reasoning. We are not in his head to relive the events of his past, its not in every other chapter like it is in the books. The show’s version worked fine and made sense. Was it as powerful as the books, no…
    But it is what it is… There are going to be certain things that just won’t be as incredible as they are in the books because of the limitations of storytelling onscreen.
    To most show watchers, the Tysha storyline was a monlogue in season 1 that most would’ve forgotten. The only way to make it as meaningful as it is in the books, would be to film the whole sequence as a flashback. Otherwise, the show would be basing such a huge moment (tyrion vs tywin) on an event that show watchers don’t really have a total picture of.

    Does that make sense?

  59. Sue the Fury,

    It seems a lot of people still think that those summaries are legit. I think it might be helpful if WOTW tweeted something like your above comment.

  60. Greenjones,

    WotW should just restore the damn thread and add “speculation disclaimers” until the minute details can be verified. There were some good “speculative” discussions going on that suddenly vanished. Once again, the “many” being punished for the actions of the “few.”

  61. Hodor’s Bastard,

    I also enjoyed reading the discussions that were in that thread and would like to see it restored with disclaimers. I don’t think it was supposed to be a punishment when they took it down. As I perceived it, they didn’t want to have a post dedicated to false information tied to them.

    Greenjones, they already tweeted about it once. I was confused for a moment, until I looked at the recent tweets section.

  62. James Rivers:
    Do we know if same person posted the Maggie ep2 review?

    Wouldn’t be surprised since we’ve never heard from that poster again and to my knowledge, there has been no acknowledgement that the media screeners have even been received. It’s been a few days now and you’d think we’d have seen at least one Twitter exclamation about the episodes. Crickets.

  63. King Tommen,

    This would be worth looking into.

    Regardless the trolls are getting better at burying the lead. They deserve “credit” for that at least.

  64. King Tommen,

    It is really upsetting. I’m a big LSH fan myself, but spreading rumors like that will only cause more strife to other fans. This year has been full of torture for anyone who wants LSH to appear. I never thought people would put so much time into trolling.

  65. One of Roose Bolton’s leeches,

    She’s referring to the supposed Episode summaries for E4-E7.

    There has never been any confirmation about Maggy’s post one way or the other but based on the fact that the poster hasn’t been seen again and the lack of any other reports of screeners even being in anyone’s hands yet, I’d venture to say this is fake as well.

    In the future, any piece of unverified info that hints (even subtly) at the presence of LSH on the show is most likely fake.

  66. One of Roose Bolton’s leeches:
    King Tommen,

    It is really upsetting. I’m a big LSH fan myself, but spreading rumors like that will only cause more strife to other fans. This year has been full of torture for anyone who wants LSH to appear. I never thought people would put so much time into trolling.

    Back in the summer, we had someone go as far as photoshopping a “deleted tweet” from the actor who played Black Walder Frey which indicated he had filmed a scene with Michelle Fairley in Belfast. It was very intricately photoshopped and it was posted on multiple GoT forums simultaneously along with other newly created accounts that “verified” the tweet was there for a time before being deleted. It took a few people doing some investigating of the pic in order to determine the tweet was photoshopped.

    I knew then that we were dealing with people who were serious about trolling. That’s a lot of time and effort to devote to something you know will be eventually proven false.

    I really have no idea why people do this.

  67. DBWizzle,

    HA! I can’t believe wicnet ran with that wishful thinking asoiaf reddit “theory”! A new low for them.

    No, those two are probably playing completely unrelated featured extras. There’s absolutely no reason to think they’re anything other than that.

  68. DBWizzle,

    Woah. Absolutely ridiculous. Those two are extras, and Nicolaj wasn’t even trolling… he was just making a meaningless joke.

    A new low for WiC.

  69. Hodor’s Bastard:
    Mustafa. S.,
    Hodor Targaryen,

    I’m highly interested in what will be said about Vanishing Varys by others in KL this season.

    That’s an interesting guess you’ve made regarding the title of episode 10. I’ll give you credit for it haha I’m going to make a wild guess like you and say it’ll be titled “the Winds of Winter”… Foreshadowing several things that will occur in the episode and the season to come and it’ll deviate attention away from the phrase you used which is widely attributed to that character.

  70. Greenjones,

    I said exactly this in the comments of the article and they deleted my post. So they’re really running at top capacity nowadays. BTW, Rowan their editor quit/got fired about a month ago so who knows who’s running the ship now.

  71. King Tommen,

    Rowan was pretty much the only reason I bothered with that site. None of the others were worth reading but Rowan at least had some pretty well written articles and seemed like a decent human being. Perhaps there’s room here for another writer.

  72. Greenjones: No, those two are probably playing completely unrelated featured extras. There’s absolutely no reason to think they’re anything other than that.

    Yeah, I’m sure they’re perfectly capable actors, but uh, GoT doesn’t cast major roles out of the local agencies. They’re generally characters with a few lines here and there.

    Which is one reason why I suspect Bowen Marsh’s role in the For the Watch stuff may be largely given to Alliser Thorne.

    It’s a really bizarre theory but you know what? They don’t care. The name of the game over there is hits, and they don’t care why you’re viewing the site. Even if it’s to laugh at them, as long as you go over there, they’re happy.

  73. One of Roose Bolton’s leeches: Are you talking about Maggie’s post? Was that confirmed to be fake?

    No, I won’t confirm/deny Maggie’s posts either way because I won’t read them. They’re violations of the rules on screeners, if they are legit.

    I was talking about the episode summaries posted the other day.

  74. What bugs me about WiC is that based on the content they’ve churned out over the past 9-10 months, they wouldn’t be looked at as a legitimate source of anything GoT-related, just a poorly run fansite that had nothing unique to bring to the party.

    But because the WiC brand has been built up so strongly by everyone in the past, it’s still unfortunately looked at as a legitimate authority on GoT show news. They get linked often by media outlets because they didn’t pay attention to the ownership changeover. It’s just a little frustrating when I see entertainment reporters on Twitter responding to these articles and spreading this inaccurate info around.

    At some point, the tide will turn when the majority figures out that the site is a shell of its former self and WotW gets its due as the pre-eminent source of GoT news but until that happens, it’s very annoying to see them put this stuff out into the universe as legitimate which forces a lot of people to have to correct the errors on a continuous basis.

  75. Sue the Fury: No, I won’t confirm/deny Maggie’s posts either way because I won’t read them. They’re violations of the rules on screeners, if they are legit.

    I was talking about the episode summaries posted the other day.

    Interesting. I didn’t know there was a policy here on leaked show information. How do you use a policy on someone who has read a script or watched a screener as opposed to episode summaries that SpoilerTV has got their hands on or leaked casting calls that were obviously not meant for public consumption?

    Just curious as to how the line gets drawn.

  76. King Tommen: Interesting. I didn’t know there was a policy here on leaked show information. How do you use a policy on someone who has read a script or watched a screener as opposed to episode summaries that SpoilerTV has got their hands on or leaked casting calls that were obviously not meant for public consumption?

    Just curious as to how the line gets drawn.

    Well, to use a parallel from political journalism, sometimes sources leak out info. Journalists use this info. Sometimes journalists are given “embargoed” copies of speeches and other such announcements, with the understanding that they can’t comment on the contents until an agreed-upon time, or else they risk losing that access.

    So I am guessing that the screeners fall under the embargo rule, whereas other such items leak out and/or are confirmed by WOTW’s sources.

  77. For what it’s worth, Maggie and the person posting the fake episode summaries don’t appear to be the same person.

    James Rivers,

    Pretty much this. Being that I’m someone who gets a screener, I really can’t go around divulging what’s on it. Screeners have rules, there’s the embargo.

    But when we play around with leaks and rumors way before the season starts, well that’s different.

  78. Sue the Fury:
    For what it’s worth, Maggie and the person posting the fake episode summaries don’t appear to be the same person.

    James Rivers,

    Pretty much this. Being that I’m someone who gets a screener, I really can’t go around divulging what’s on it. Screeners have rules, there’s the embargo.

    But when we play around with leaks and rumors way before the season starts, well that’s different.

    Thanks for the clarification. Can you at least say whether you’ve received episodes screeners yet?

  79. Sue the Fury,
    King Tommen,

    Or for how many eps. you received if such is the case…

    In past years I’ve seen critics specify these things but then, this year I’ve heard nothing like that yet. Maybe the restrictions have gotten tighter around these things?

  80. Greenjones:
    Sue the Fury,
    King Tommen,

    Or for how many eps. you received if such is the case…

    In past years I’ve seen critics specify these things but then, this year I’ve heard nothing like that yet. Maybe the restrictions have gotten tighter around these things?

    The Mashable article that came out today which reviewed the first episode from the premiere said that no outlets were given any kind of embargo instructions by HBO at the event. He said that a lot of outlets wrote vague-ish reviews of the episode simply because the fanbase would get angry about specific episode spoilers.

    This of course is not necessarily connected to any embargo policy HBO would put on their screeners (I think in almost every season they’ve given critics the 1st four episodes except last season when it was 3).

  81. kind of out-of-the-blue theory here:

    If For The Watch does happen, do you think Olly may be one of the people to stab Jon? I can’t imagine he’d be overly willing to “live with” the Wildlings after they destroyed his village and killed his parents. Since Jon’s policy as Lord Commander will involve Wildling cooperation, maybe Olly will want him gone…
  82. Titties ‘n’ beer! Oz dun gud ‘ere. It’s a cracker quiz. Neck a bottle after each correct answer. No reason, just neck a bottle, mate.
    Technically, last question’s answer isn’t on screen because Sally’s fleet was not part of main fleet. It was tasked to wait out at sea, for later use. Anyway…. In true helpful manner, I’m going to give you the answer. It’s between 1 and infinity, but closer to 1 than infinity. Do you see why I remomcend…. Life is a bottle, mate. Just neck it!

  83. Turncloak: Can you tell us how much you enjoyed the episodes compared to other seasons?

    I haven’t watched the episodes yet, I just received them. It’s the first four episodes. I’m going to hold off on sharing opinions until day of the premiere though. I really prefer to experience to the show along with everyone else but since I’m having gall bladder surgery two days before the premiere, I’m glad to have the screeners now so I can check out the premiere early for the recap. I’m thinking I’ll be stupid on pain meds come April 12th. Which could make the premiere better, who knows.

  84. Sue the Fury:

    Pretty much this. Being that I’m someone who gets a screener, I really can’t go around divulging what’s on it. Screeners have rules, there’s the embargo.

    But when we play around with leaks and rumors way before the season starts, well that’s different.

    No need to divulge the stuff, just upload the episodes on sharing-is-caring sites. That would be nice.

    Otherwise, if you have the episodes, but you can’t share them or give us any info about the content, then it would be better not to bring them up. Stop boasting then.

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