RHONJ Finale Part 1, A Bald Canary Sings by BB
Bravo messed up when they decided to film back-to-back seasons of RHONJ. I hated this episode because I’ve been hearing about what happened at the Posche Fashion Show for almost a year now and I found it boring and anti-climactic. Bravo could have put me out of my misery by taking out about 5 boring scenes, and adding next week’s episode and be done with it.
This whole thing was a set up from the beginning. I have no idea who knew what when and I don’t really care. I do think at the very least Kim D, Angelo and Bravo had something to do with it. Here are just some of the reasons why I think this whole thing was created and contrived by Bravo.
Melissa is filmed getting a call from Kim D. who apologizes to her for talking about her husband and invites her to the fashion show. Melissa wasn’t going to go because she was mad at Kim D., but now she’s all of a sudden going because she’s a sucker for an apology, even though she doesn’t trust Kim D and has a suspicion something is up. If someone was badmouthing my husband around town, I wouldn’t be going to their fashion show. But of course, Melissa looks at this as being invited because she’s a celebrity.
Jacqueline and Caroline, who are on a fake shopping trip to Posche, tell Kim D. they’re OK with sitting with Teresa at the show. Are you guys buying this? I’m not.
Teresa, who always gets her make-up and hair done at home, just happens to decide to go with Kim D. to Allure salon to get it done this time. Angelo, the PR director for Allure salon, just happens to be there and serves them champagne. Coincidence? I think not.
Every conversation between Kathy and Melissa, Kim D. and Teresa, Jacqueline and Caroline is almost scripted to lay the groundwork for what’s about to happen. And so are the talking heads.
So at the show, Angelo comes up to the table and introduces himself to Melissa who can’t quite place him – to be continued. Big fat yawn. I feel like I just wasted an hour of my time. I cannot wait until this season is over.
Other riveting stuff that happened:
We saw a poignant scene with all the Manzos having brunch with Lindsey at the Hoboken apartment. The best line of that whole conversation is when Al says wouldn’t it be ironic when he retires and he and Caroline spend all their time together he discovers what a bitch Caroline is. If looks could kill, Al Manzo would be a dead man.
We saw Kathy meet to pitch her appetizer/dessert ideas to executives of Bindi. This dumbass will never learn NOT to take her doofus of a husband with her to any business meetings. Note to Kathy – Richie’s not an asset to you in business as evidenced by the fact that I’ve not heard mention of any food businesses you have going so far.
Another dumbass is Melissa taking Joey to her meeting to get advice from some big label record executives. Does anyone know what was accomplished at this meeting? Great line from Melissa: “I’m happy at where I’m at.” Good for you, honey, because it looks like that’s where you’re gonna stay.
Lauren and Caroline go check out the empty spaces for Cafface. Caroline states that Lauren doesn’t realize how spectacular she is yet. That might be because Caroline belittles her almost every chance she gets. Best line from Lauren when she says it’s time to call the constructing man.
The Italian lesson with Teresa’s kids was fun to watch, especially when Gia takes over. The play date with Melissa and Jacqueline and their kids was kind of awkward and I’m not sure what the purpose of showing it was. I did notice that Jac’s son was not really interacting with the other kids. It could have been his age at the time, but I couldn’t help but notice it since his Autism diagnosis is now public.
That’s about it. It’s becoming more obvious to me that the housewife shows become more and more scripted and staged as the seasons go by unless Bravo mixes it up by sending some people on their merry way and adding new people. I don’t mean Kim D. or Kim G. either. I mean totally new people. Where will Bravo go with RHONJ after this season? If they want me to keep watching, they’d better do something drastic. I’m pretty much over watching people declare people “dead to them” over petty things and slight hurts.
P.S. I didn’t forget about the Skype conversation between Jacqueline and Ashlee. I just didn’t think it was worth mentioning before now.
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What’s up with Lauren Manzo? by NoMoreDrama
I used to think Lauren Manzo had a good head on her shoulders. In Seasons One and Two of RHONJ she stayed out of the drama. She was the older and wiser cousin who gave Ashlee Holmes solid advice. She struggled with finding a career that interested her. She started dating her brother’s good friend – and had to navigate the change in their relationship. All pretty normal stuff for a woman in her early 20s.
In May of 2012 Lauren was interviewed by Glamour magazine along with 4 other housewife daughters, and discussed how the show began to affect her.
“I did get caught up in the fame.” —Lauren Manzo, RH New Jersey
“When we first began the show, my biggest fear was viewers noticing my weight. I knew I was heavy, and I knew people were going to say something, but I did everything I could to hide it and act like I was confident. When the show started to become more popular, I had these younger girls say to me on Twitter and Facebook, “I look up to you; I love the fact that you’re not a size 2.” I said to myself, You know what? All these other women are struggling. Let’s put this on the show.
My mom and I have always been open about my weight. I’ll say stuff like, “Oh my God, my stomach is so big today!” We’ve learned to joke about it. When she said on the show, “I’m not going to tell Lauren she looks perfect when she needs to lose a few pounds,” that didn’t bother me. What upset me is when people wrote and said, “Your own mother thinks you’re disgusting.” Not because they’re calling me fat but because they’re going after my mom.
I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t get caught up in being on TV for a little bit. I said to my boyfriend, Vito, a while ago, “I found a ring that I want. Go buy it, and we’ll get married on TV.” And then I said to myself, That’s not what I want right now. It doesn’t make sense to get married. I need to become a woman on my own. And I don’t think I could do that right now with a ring on my finger.”
This interview came out just as Season 3 began to air. Season 3 Lauren struggled as her brothers becoming popular with viewers, leaving her behind. They had a feature role on Million Dollar Matchmaker – an episode that brought in good ratings for the show. The boys moved out of the family home into an Hoboken apartment with friend Greg Bennett. Rumors began to swirl of a spinoff for the trio. Eventually they settled for some webisodes on Bravo – that were quickly panned by viewers – but all of the attention on the boys led to a series of self-pitying confessionals by Lauren. She expressed that she felt left behind, and a grumpy attitude began to show. In Season 3 Lauren also confided that her make-up store within a store had closed after one day. This was a surprise to viewers. The grand opening had been featured on Season 2 – but somehow Lauren taking her chair and walking out hadn’t made the show.
Shortly after Lauren gave the Glamor interview, rumors began to surface of an engagement. On May 23rd, 2012, Reality Tea reported that “they just received EXCLUSIVE information from a source that Lauren Manzo and her longtime boyfriend Vito Scalia are reportedly engaged! Rumor has it the entire proposal was filmed for an upcoming episode of RHONJ. Apparently the producers contacted the restaurant in advance to secure permission to film the proposal and arrange for shooting.”
This was about one week after Season 3 of the NJ housewives began to air – but filming was finished for Season 4 – a season that had featured Lauren’s uncle’s – Jaime Laurita’s -marriage as a highlight of that season.
Lauren played along with rumor, flashing a picture of the ring on twitter.
Shortly after that she denied the engagement, tweeting, “Joking everyone! IM NOT ENGAGED- I figured if Blogs can make up fake stories then I could too just to show how silly it is!”
Season Four was a tough one for Lauren. She went public with her battle with losing weight. While many viewers could relate to the difficulties of dieting, her father Al interviewed that she didn’t need to worry “Daddy will buy you a lap band.” Scene after scene was shot with Lauren whining about her diet – and viewers began to grow tired of her negative attitude – especially as news that she undergone lap band surgery surfaced. Her mother’s confessionals were all about how Lauren was hurting – and how she wasn’t herself. Her families’ nerves were worn thin when she griped her way through the Napa trip – throwing a fit because she wasn’t the first one told that Albie’s girlfriend was moving in with the boys – and causing her mother to call her an asshole.
Lauren showed a spoiled, vindictive side to her when she gloated about the beauty salon (where she had started her business for the one day) going out of business – and asked her mother to rent her the space. She became embroiled in her mother’s battle with co-star Teresa – even taking to twitter with the fight – tweeting out these gems after the Season 4 reunion filmed.
T thinks my lap band is a bad thing-Im healthy now-letting ur husb all u a C as long as he buys u things is a great msg to send ur daughters
If @VitoScalia3 ever cheated on me or disrespected me no amount of material things or diamonds would ever make it better
Lauren ManzoVerified @Laurenmanzo
T thinks my lap band is a bad thing-Im healthy now-letting ur husb all u a C as long as he buys u things is a great msg to send ur daughters
And then in answer to a fan comment, she shot back …
Lauren ManzoVerified@Laurenmanzo
@______ you weren’t at the reunion to see what she said-so u don’t know what ur talking about- plus-you’re irrelevant
Lauren doesn’t sound like she’s in a happy place right now. It’s unclear why she was even at the reunion. Normally children of the housewives aren’t invited – but that’s not a golden rule. Vicki’s daughter Brianna had a turn on the reunion couch at a recent OC reunion. Whatever is going on with Lauren – she doesn’t seem happy. This seems to be another case of the show damaging someone’s life. I hope she is able to step away and get a little peace. It seems to have worked wonders for her Cousin Ashlee Holmes. But that’s unlikely. Chances are they’ll be filming Season 5 soon.
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Photo by Boston
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Big Brother is pretty much over. All that’s left is the final HOH competition to determine the final 2, and the jury vote. Dan has ruled the game since the first few weeks. Will he throw the HOH to win jury votes? If he does will he be voted out? Will the jury be bitter or vote for the best player? Dan has officially done better than Dr. Will by making it to the final 3. If he makes it to the final 2 without winning HOH – he deserves the win.
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Kim D took to twitter last night to defend herself
@melissagorga hey baby doll, why didn’t u say all the shit you’re running out of your mouth 2 weeks ago? stick to your night job hot shot
@DBM143 @melissagorga she definitely isn’t hiding when she hits that poll
@melissagorga hey baby doll, why didn’t u say all the shit you’re running out of your mouth 2 weeks ago? stick to your night job hot shot
@melissagorga keep your little mouth shut baby doll. u don’t wanna experience my wrath.
Now THAT was a night !!! Buckle up for next week !! #rhonj
I can’t quite figure what Melissa did to tick her off – it must have been the impersonation on the show because Melissa’s tweets were fine
Hmmm.. Kim D doesn’t have enough reason to want to do this to me… Maybe someone made her do it.
Yep! RT @NaughtyNiceRob: Next week #RHONJ is amazing. Folks forget they have mics on and the truth comes out!
NaughtybutNice Rob had this to say
Several folks told me @Teresa_Giudice had nothing to do with setting @melissagorga up at the fashion show. Feel bad that she will get blamed
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Lynn's Place 
Good morning everyone. NMD & Rebecca you know Lynn was smiling down and cracking up at last nights blog. 🙂
Lainey thks for the update on Detox. Detox I’m sending my prayers to your mom and you better see the doc about that cough.
Good morning!
You’re welcome Powell. Yay to you for helping me nag that woman!
I don’t believe for a minute that Tre wasn’t involved in the set up of Melissa. Since when does she not want to talk about her family? I almost choked to death when she said that! SHE constantly talked about her family ALL season! She was too calm and too reserved for the Tre we know! Such a set up. And I am so disappointed in Bravo for staging this. It was so fake! I love drama, don’t get me wrong, the storyline could have been made shocking if they had not manufactured parts of it. I can’t wait to be done with these low class people. Is it me or are these housewives on these shows sinking lower and lower…..
I think Teresa asked them to not talk about her family — not that she doesn’t talk about her family.
Interesting that the Fabellini debut took place AFTER the fashion show and that whole “mani/pedi uh-huhhhhhh” thing was all BS… I believe it happened, but NO WAY did Melissa watch the kids since Teresa “had no one to watch them” on Fabellini night. They all have said that they haven’t spoken since the reunion the day AFTER the fashion show.
Bravo sucks a$$.
I thought Teresa looked panicked, she just shut down. She really didn’t know what to do, we all know she is not the fastest thinker. That’s exactly how I react in a very uncomfortable situation that catches me off guard.
Just because you talk about your family doesn’t mean strangers can talk about your family.
Perhaps as executive producer and not show producer, Andy didn’t have knowledge of this train wreck of these past few episodes and this is why those producers got fired. Teresa is the only they are making residuals off of rom this show.
Teresa could have stepped out of the middle of this – she didn’t – and that was a calculated move.
She could have LC. And Melissa could have not gone to the fashion show and Caroline could have not attended any of the functions with Teresa. Jaq could have not gone to the play date at Teresa’s after she claims she heard Tre talking crap about her. And if she heard her at the play date she could have left instead of playing with Nicholas alone on the swings. But none of these people want to miss a minute of camera time. Jaq said it herself on WWHL when Andy asked why she didn’t just leave instead of pretending to sleep on the Napa trip. She answered “because we were filming.”
Well said. Why does everyone expect more of Teresa that the other women?
^5, mamaz
Mmmm hmmm MamaZ.
LC, didn’t Teresa seem the least bit flummoxed to you? Did you hear how she kept saying “my heart is going 500” she couldn’t even speak. “my heart is beating so fast” how hard is that to say? For her, it was hard to articulate because she seemed rather shell-shocked. She has a future as an actress of Meryl Streep proportions if she was “acting” imo. On the other hand, Jacqueline, Mel and Kathy seemed out of sorts coming into the Fashion Show. That seems too coincidental. Caroline and her daughter seemed the same as always to me. But Mel, Kathy and Jac were “off”.
Although Teresa always has trouble articulating what she wants to say, lol.
I would not be surprised if Jac was involved.
I’m sure she could have been although it was most likely inadvertent because she is a………..BLABBERMOUTH!!!!!!!!!!
I agree the messages Jac got at just the right time were very telling plus the fact that Teresa wasn’t allowed to know who they were from.
They should’ve stayed their a$$ in their respective corners in their homes & skipped the Fashion show. They can go to the boutique or another store to buy those close. I wonder how much Kim G is being payed by Bravo for these boring FSs?
I think she tried to step out as much as she could, when baldy said he knew her SIL from the ‘gentlemen’ club, Teresa purposely didn’t bite. She looked panic stricken. Then Kim D purposely asked what she did and Teresa left the room. What more could she have done? The cameras stayed put because BRAVO/Production wanted this scene to take place, they knew where they wanted to take the this story. What more could she have done?
RR it doesn’t seem like T could do anything. She got out of there not to respond. I bet her mind was racing. I don’t think she had anything to do w/this. Shame on Bravo.
She could have gone home – she could have said, ‘I’m not going to be a part of this.”
She’s not really one to not fulfill her contract requirements. She’ll show up to work; it’s part of her work “ethnic.”
Bravo really wants everybody on the finale show, if possible. Like the reunion. IMO.
Even if Teresa went home, I have a feeling she still would have been blamed for this.
Her hair was in rolls and she had half a face full of make up and the conversation was already taking place. She was also being picked up from the salon to be taken to the event. I think at that point, it would have been moot.
I thought it was interesting that she was so scared- something set that off. Some of the articles say they were all to have their hair and makeup done there, but something caused the bulk of the group- who had been fighting/upset during the day- to change their plans at the last minute. Since T was not with them, she didn’t know about it. That must have made her nervous to begin with. When he walked in and started talking , she ran for the hills because she knew/intuited something was to play out and she didn’t want any part of it.
What bothers me then is the early traiilers which show her poorly- articulated comment about ,”maybe someone is setting me up” , which she was afraid of, but sounded guilty as she said it. Who knows? she said it-
She had just made good with Melissa and now she wanted to keep it on an upswing not bring up old dirt. I actually don’t think this was a set up of Melissa, it was a set up of Teresa.
I totally agree. It was too easy for them to blame Teresa.
Hmm. Good point.
On Season 2 reunion she freaked out when Danielle brought up her family and screamed at her not to bring up her family.
Jacqueline is a sheep. She is disgusting. She believes whatever is told to her. I believe someone is tryna set Tre up. Caroline is just happy cuz now she has a reason to say Tre’s name. It was just about to spill out of her mouth. I say that Kim D should go the way of Kim G. Wherever she went – send this one as well. We’ll see if Medtronic weeks episode brings any clarity. Probably not. Yes i believe Bravo thinks we’re all as stupid as Kim D is. What these women won’t do for their 15 minutes of fame. RHONJ has been really difficult to watch. I never thought I could hate everyone but I’m pretty damned close. Happy Monday everyone. Thanks for the recap BB!
Kim D Twitter exchanged with Melissa last night was very very telling for all of you that think Tre set this up.
Pretty sure there was a set up, and it was on T not Mel.
While I’m not necessarily a Teresa fan I think she has been bullied all season by the other 4 all season. It sure has been a bring Teresa down last 2 years. I think all 4 of them banded together to do it and I for one am not watching this go on again. I think Teresa looked confused when that guy started talking to her about Melissa, like what is going on and tried to shut it down when it started. By her reaction at the show I think she was truly surprised when he walked up behind her but I think at that point she did realize something was up. I think Melissa knew exactly who he was and realized something wasn’t right and tried to make it appear like she had no clue as to who he was but felt she knew him from somewhere. I think the fact that Teresa is sitting there talking about her heart beating so much told me she was scared about what was going down and really did not want anything to happen. The calls Jacq gets next week tells me that others were involved in it (poss Kim G along with Kim d). I’m wondering if the producer that got fired maybe didn’t set this whole thing up enlisting the help of the Kims’ and this guy and maybe it was her that was doing the texting. I also wonder if that is not why she got fired. I’m not saying any of the other housewives were involved but given she was friends with the Manzo’s she probably thought she was taking care of business for the Don C. Bottom line I THINK Teresa was set up big time and I’m surprised the others can’t see that (other housewives) but then it makes them hating her all season seem silly as until this happened they really didn’t have a reason to hate her as much as they did. This took alot of planning to get everything in place and took alot more than just 1 person to do it. LIke a production company. You can’t tell me Andy didn’t give the ok for this. If he didn’t he sure isn’t much of a manager (or whatever he is) if something like this went on under his nose and he didn’t know anything about it.
I agree with you. I also think there is a connection to Jonathan Cheban, aka the Spin Doctor. He’s made a living under the golden rule that “all publicity is good publicity.” Just ask Kim Kardashian. He’s everywhere with the Gorgas these days. Coincidence?
I will never forget that look on Melissa’s face when Angelo walked up to the table. That is the look of someone that knew exactly who he was. She knew that hidden skeleton of hers was out of the closet. She looked like she was caught. Shes not that good of an actress and involuntary facial expressions are hard to control.
It was fun to hear Melissa say over and over again that she just couldn’t place him!
Angelo is a very distinctive looking guy. No way Melissa didn’t know who he was. Why not just say hello and then tell everyone she used to tend bar for him?
Is that the nice way to say he looks scary?
To me, MeGo, who has lied at every turn, and placed fake issue after fake issue on Teresa, pretended to have sincere concerns about family, family love and loyalty, her husband, faith, etc, yet hasc reated so much dissent and warfare, looked SCARED to death. She , who to me has preplanned every word she has said, and every event she has created trouble at- was floored and had to just pretend to not know him while she tried to udneretand/think about how to handle it. Reminded me of classic liars I have confronted over the years. They panic when confronted with something they don’t have tie to provide a well-thought out cover for. And can;t get nayone else to protectt hem ont he sopt by lying with them, So they mumble and look around, while struggling to find lies to tell.
Who set up Danielle? Wasn’t there info that came out about Caroline digging up dirt on Danielle and setting her up? So just like the ganging up on one person situation is not new neither is the set up new. This is a pattern on RHONJ. Same story different person being set up, same people doing the set up. Same story line—we are all so good and innocent and the person we’re against is so bad bla bla bla Teresa. Danielle was the bad person now it’s Teresa. Caroline has to save Jac from the bad friend first Danielle now Teresa. It worked before but this time have viewers finally realized who they are dealing with regarding Caroline? Who benefits from this set up? The person with something to gain is the person who did the set up. I don’t think Teresa has anything to gain in this but all the others do. I also think Caroline is not being genuine when she says that Teresa said a lot of bad things about Melissa and that’s why she was ready not to like Melissa when she first came on the show. Isn’t that exactly what Caroline did to Danielle and isn’t that the reason Teresa didn’t like Danielle? I guess it’s ok if Caroline does it but not ok if Teresa does it.
There have been some articles recently that have suggested that it is Bravo who set up Danielle- they dug into her past, found the book,and planted it with Caroline/whoever . The comment was,Bravo found searching into the women’s pasts worked so well with Danielle’s book that they started doing it with all of them. And apparently, according to this source, Bravo producers ( with one in particular leading the charge) had hated T and set her up with Mel=- but once they found out how biased these producers had been, more senior management : 1) fired her, 2) decided it had gone too far and was time for them to go after theManzo/Mego crowd- hence strippergate.
This does sound like the Bravo who has emerged in recent years-and has gone way too far for me. The hwole season has been nothign but a big build to the reunion/fashion show.
Bravo possibly may have done the set up but I think everyone except Teresa was in on it. What trash these people are. It serves to extend Melissa’s 15 minutes that’s for sure.
I’m not a Teresa fan at all but I do not think she was part of this at all. She truly looked surprised. Even at the fashion show she looked uneasy when Angelo came up to Melissa. Can the ladies of RHONJ finally realize that going to the Posche fashion show is NEVER a good thing. Kim D. is just trash.
This is from a blog on Bravo last year right after the fashion show – made up of some of Jacqueline’s tweets and explaining why she wasn’t at the reunion. I do believe T said those things – i don’t think she set Melissa up. Her reaction looked genuine to me.
“Jacqueline Laurita may have avoided the couches — and screaming matches — on The Real Housewives of New Jersey’s season 3 reunion, but that doesn’t mean she missed all the fun.
“I apologize for not attending the reunion but I was not well, Mentally and physically. XOXO! I hope you forgive me,” Jacqueline tweeted Sunday night as part 1 of the reunion began to unfold. Now, let the games begin. (Teresa, you may want to cover your eyes for this part.)
“The only people (Teresa) ‘Joked’ about in her book was Danielle, Kim G., Melissa, Kathy, and Caroline!!You tell me..are those her fav?” Jacqueline tweeted in reference to the Fabulicious fiasco. “A lot of things happened off camera.” Go on, Jacqueline.
“It’s true she told us not to compliment Melissa or tell her Where we shopped or got our botox,” Ashlee’s mama reveals. “Teresa told Kathy before I even met her that I said she was immature. I did. Only because of things Teresa told me about her.”
Hold on, she’s not done yet. “Teresa and Gia 1st watched the christening with our mutual friend Jolene.Then they watched it at my house.I didn’t think Gia should c it,” Jacqueline posted, along with a few other things she needed to get off her chest: “I’m speechless. She did call her a gold digger. They both did…Bitches? ?? Is this coming from someone who is SINCERELY in a good place with Melissa???…This is what I’ve dealt w/all season.On camera T seems sincere&tries so hard but in reality it wasn’t sincere.””
http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/the-dish/jacqueline-lauritas-fiery-reunion-reaction
Let me “read between the lines.” Jacqueline was hung over and sticking her nose into a matter which didn’t concern her?
AGAIN
ITA Rebecca. This is Jac’s M.O. She is always somewhere involved.
Bwa ha ha ha!
Jacqueline… pay attention to your kid. *sigh*
And grow the hell up.
Jac says “on camera T seems sincere & tries so hard but in reality it wasn’t sincere.” Couldn’t you say the exact same thing about Melissa & JoGo? They came on the show with guns blazing at their son’s baptism party, starting a fight with Teresa. Then they seemed to be trying “so hard” to get along with her, or were they just faking it for the storyline? Someone pointed out that Melissa & her sisters never wanted to make peace with Teresa. I believe that’s true. JoGo is putty in his wife’s hands, he just wants to be on tv. Did you watch that video in yesterday’s blog from Six Flags Great Adventure? Jogo and that creep Greggy make idiots out of themselves, because they want so badly to be on stage! Same with Melissa. She can’t sing!!! But she wants to be on stage. Getting on RHONJ was like a drug for these people. They wanted it, and they did what they had to do to get on the show. They made a deal with the devil – Bravo – promised they would BRING TERESA DOWN. Mission accomplished, or so they thought. It has backfired on them. All their scheming, this ridiculous set up of Melissa with her old boss (Angelo wasn’t her manager, someone else was, but Angelo must have worked at Lookers or had some connection, so he was miked up) – for what? To make Teresa look bad? It’s disgusting, the whole show. Teresa and her SIL Melissa hate each other. So Bravo took advantage of that. Bravo has become THE MOST DISGUSTING channel in history.
Teresa has become successful from being on the show – they are ALL jealous of that. Her blogs are really good, especially the ones the ghost writer does, but hey, that’s smart on Teresa’s end that she realizes she needs help. On twitter, Teresa NEVER fights with anyone. She tweets positive things, pictures of her family, and talks about her appearances/book tour/Milania hair care line. She hasn’t said one word about last night’s episode, in fact she tweeted:
Teresa Giudice @Teresa_Giudice
I hope you will be having a wonderful Sunday surrounded by friends and family. Eat well! Have fun!
Teresa reminds me of Bethenny, another successful entrepreneur.
Bravo is doing what Bravo does best, creating a dramatic story from the lives of these people who are willing to do anything to be on the show. In the end, it looks like Teresa comes out a winner, but she has forever lost her brother, sil, & her niece & nephews. She never lost any friends, because those other people never were real friends.
It’s interesting that Teresa reminds you of Bethenny, because I initially started disliking Teresa when she was team Jill during Season 3 of NYC HWs. She went out of her way to trash Bethenny in all sorts of interviews in 2010. That was where my distaste of Teresa started.
I think they are similar in some ways, but I think Bethenny is a lot stronger person, I can’t imagine her allowing Jason to talk to her the way Joe talks to Teresa.
Bethenny is a lot SMARTER than Tre. I perceive Tre as being stronger than Bethenny. and YES, I remember when Tre was trashing Bethenny left and right. She bet on the wrong horse in that race.
That’s what I was going to say Lainey. Well, not about the horse. I was going to stay she may not be the smartest but neither is she the dumbest, and she works hard.
neigh!!!!! 😉
lol Bethenny & Teresa are only similar IMO in that they have been able to build successful books/products out of their Bravo Housewife experience. No way do I think Teresa has even 1/10 th intelligence of Bethenny!
I read a lot of stuff about New Jersey in the blogs, magazines ect. But I never heard why they fired some of the old producers. Can someone tell me the reasons? or if they heard possibly why they were fired? Thanks!
They were too friendly with the Manzos and likely guiding the filming in a manner to make their enemy look bad, especially the vineyard phone call remix.
Could you tell me where you found the link between firing some producers WCW? Thanks
I am not sure if it was an actual link. I think it started with someone seeing a profile on twitter that was all buddy buddy with the Manzo’s and noticed that it was the name of a producer on the show- and now that person is no longer a producer on the show and has their twitter locked.
Thanks RR. On the SH blog, it mentions something about a producer not being there anymore. Its an interesting read…
I sent you an e mail!
I gather there are some things that some feel should not be said on the blog, and hope that, since I am typing so late, one of you group leaders could share it with me on my email rather than here. i get the impresison there are a number of suspicions.assumptioins/even when shared elsewhere first, that some feel should not be here. Would love to know what they are and what to be concerned about. A number of you have lived through the wars with Lynn, including the recent , so disturbing ones, and I would love to know how to avoid these pitfalls for the group going forward. Pls only answerprivately if comfortable and I apologize if this is too overt.
I don’t think there is an issue posting a link to another site because of any sort of blog war, I think it’s a word press thing that when WP doesn’t recognize the site, it makes people’s virus software go off.
As far as blog wars, it’s kind of hard to pin point since there a more than a few players involved and everyone has their own prerogative. But really, I feel Lynn supported a lot of bloggers out there. There is one in particular who I feel was resentful of Lynn’s success and went out of their way to try and smite her character. If people defended Lynn to her or expressed their own issues with her, it got turned into Lynn’s flying monkey’s attacking her. . Most of this sort of stuff happened on twitter for for whatever reason, some folks decided to troll here and make trouble. I am not aware of any user of this site going ot other sites just to make trouble but who knows…..
Thanks so much, RR- I appreciate knowing. It does seem that Lynn and some of the group has learned a ton about word press- and I saw some of the comments last week about not linking to sites. If that is all it is, that makes perfect sense. I am certainly aware of the one blogger – hopefully that will calm down.. Thanks very much for the input- and if there are other things we should know about word press, etc-, can someone mention them to us? I am still kind of wondering about the last frustration for Lynn, which I know had nothing at all to do with wp- Some must be aware of ths issue she was confronting, and I’m wondering if there is anything that anyone can do to help.
You are welcome. 🙂
A couple of other things I can add is that the first comment goes to moderation, so people shouldn’t feel unwelcome by it. That if you post too many links (even one’s WP likes) WP will move you to spam and you have to wait for a mod her to let your comment out. I also think if the comment is too long it does it too. Also, if you add a link to your ID where you post and WP doesn’t like it, it will lock out your post . 😀
Caroline’s proclaiming that Jac finally had that moment of realization of who she was dealing with regarding Teresa was so like Caroline. If I had just been through what Teresa had just been through and Jac started proclaiming that she was getting these texts at just the moment this was going down (how convenient BTW) but of course Teresa wasn’t allowed to know who was sending the texts (of course not then Teresa would have known who was in on the set up)….I would have felt just the way Teresa felt and anyone else would have too. That’s what is so maddening about all these women Teresa is dammed if she does and dammed if she doesn’t. If Teresa reacts as people do react, then she is wrong for reacting. BTW this whole thing amounted to exactly nothing and it was everyone but Teresa who made it into a big deal, so it did serve a purpose.
Now were told that next week we will see, well sure we have to be told that because this week we didn’t see what these women want us to see. But just like these women play along with the altered time line and pretend things like Teresa was bad for not inviting Jac to her launch party and on and on. They want us to believe that someone was caught forgetting their mic was on and admitting to being involved in this set up. Yes, because no editing is ever done to promote a story line and we viewers really believe the everyone is so innocent sugar won’t melt in their moth except for Teresa who is responsible for all the evils in the world including global warming and economic instability.
I am so sick of Don Caroline, snake in the grass boring Jac, innocent angel Melissa and Saint Kathy.
Speaking of text messages, wasn’t the night of the fashion show, also the night that Joe was photographed with some other woman at at TGI Fridays? It was Kim G who was sending the info to Jac. Maybe that’s the text messages they are all gloating over.
When someone says ‘someone said something’ but you aren’t allowed to know who said it (or in this case messaged it) so you can’t even defend yourself, that is always suspect. In my experience it is always part of a set up. This is exactly what Jac did. I’ve had this done to me and it always is someone doing something underhanded to you and designed to hurt you (in this case Teresa is the one being hurt).
OT – from Simon
Simon van Kempen @SimonvanKempen
Some of u may have seen/heard that @McCordAlex & I r on @CouplesTherapyV debuting Oct 3rd on @VH1 Here’s the 1st promo http://bit.ly/CT2Promo1
Are we recapping this show?
Plus someone please tune in to Ellen today for Bethenny’s big announcement.
Please no recapping of Simon in any form! The only reason I watch Alex’s V blog is because he is not on them.
Come on Windy, you know he’s real and he wants you to enjoy him! 😀
I hope not, because they are going onto this show with a Fake storyline on a z-rated show to cash in on another 15 minutes of fame, they are the biggest fame-whores! And I was one of Alex’s biggest supporters, but since everything that went down here on the blogs with Simon, I was able to re-watch some of the seasons with Silex and started looking at them from a whole other slant, and they are the social climbing-famewhores everyone said they were from the minute they agreed to do the show.
I did not see Simon in the PrOMO and only briefly of Alex getting out of the pool. Did I miss them?
Bethenny is announcing another cocktail flavor, according to her tweets
Fake Marriage issues along with that GOOFY couple Old man Doug Hutcherson and his teen bride Courtney Stodden. More fake reality shows.
I laughed when I saw Teresa’s response to the bald guy at the salon. My exact words were, “Oy – bad acting”
It’s pretty clear to me that this whole thing has been scripted by Bravo and Teresa jumped in to help the plot along w/the Producers, Kim D and these townies. It just says to me that Bravo is stooping to a new low – which makes me feel not so great about watching this show. It’s becoming more like Jerry Springer w/each passing season. I truly feel like I’m losing brain cells….
I don’t think Teresa had a thing to do with this.
And others will share your opinion here, PJ – I just don’t.
Will we ever know? Probably not – and what one believes will depend on how one felt about Teresa leading into the whole plot. Either way, it keeps people talking about the show and keeps money in the pockets of the principals – like, I said above, calculated move. And it makes me not really want to watch the show – I don’t like being played.
I think T was involved in the sense that she was probably the one who told Kim D in the first place about the gossip about Melissa’s stripping past.
T was probably thinking “Oh sh*t what have I done” when Kim went batshit crazy and started the ball rolling with the producers about having Mel’s boss confront her.
That’s it. And many people knew about Melissa… Jac and others too… but probably because T had first repeated the rumor or suspicions. That is the beginning and end of her involvement in exposing her sister in law. The rest of it I believe benefits anyone who wants to take Teresa down…and that could be ANYONE..
I agree with alot of what you said amalfi. If Melissa was a stripper, then I guarantee they ALL knew it. I bet Teresa wasnt even the first to find out in the cast. I dont agree with anyone being exposed like that, but if you were a stripper and you are now on tv, its bound to become public at some point.
I agree, Lady. Teresa was doing some ad acting. She did not want herfamilyon the show and she finally got oneon Melissa. Kim D was willing to start it. Tre knew exactly what was going on when she agreed to have her make up done with Kim D. Didn’t anyone else think that was so out of character? It smells of Teresa.
She’s been alluding to the stripper rumors for a while now. And these townies have been talking about it, as well. I think they were just looking for a way to get it on the show – Kim D was their ticket to the Producers. Once the Producers gave them the green light, the game was on. But, Teresa could have (and should have) said that she would not be part of it.
She should have said she wouldn’t be a part of it, I agree. But that’s not the same as orchestrating the whole thing. And Melissa could have opted out the minute she saw Angelo at the fashion show as well. I can’t imagine that she didn’t recognize her former boss. If she suspected a set up she could have refused to play along as well. Instead she kept repeating ‘where do I know him from?”
I also think Melissa and Kathy should have said they wouldn’t be a part of any group trashing of Teresa. But they have been gleefully participating from day 1.
ITA. No one is innocent in this.
Agreed. Why don’t folks question Mel’s honesty or lack thereof for pretending she didn’t know Angelo. She admits to bartending for him; so why the act, MeGo? Or more precisely, why lie on camera, Melissa?
Agree – I’m not saying that she orchestrated – I do think that she played along.
Another site posted that the bald guy was not Melissa’s boss at the club, she was managed by some other guy – see Diva’s link below.
I’ll tell you what seems out of character to my observances: namely, that Teresa would put all the work of mending fences, of getting the cousins back together only to dash it all for this debacle. It makes no logical sense. It doesn’t serve her purpose and contrary to what you ‘see’, Teresa’s words and actions have always been keep the family stuff private. For G_d’s sake, that’s the reason for her and Jac’s demise.
Exactly. Other people have more to gain from their family falling apart. Teresa certainly doesnt have much to achieve from destroying her own family.
I completely agree. It makes absolutely no logical sense for this to have been orchestrated by Teresa. Teresa wants her brother in her life, she wants to mend fences, she does not want her parents to be hurt, she wants her children to have their cousins in their lives. There is no benefit to Teresa in doing this. But this is a pattern on RHONJ Danielle was set up. My guess is that the person who set Danielle up had a hand in this set up of Teresa too.
I didn’t see that at all. I thought she looked really, really uncomfortable and on the verge of tears. It actually reminded me of when her brother and Melissa came to her book signing.
If there was any sort of guilt in her behavior, imo it might be because she has probably told people in the past that she heard that Melissa was a stripper and now she finds herself in a situation where it is being made part of the story line.
I don’t think the fact that Melissa may have been a stripper is any secret and I don’t think it’s Teresa fault that Mel is being outed.
I don’t think it’s Teresa’s fault either but I also think that Teresa has probably said things about Melissa when they weren’t getting along to others that she wouldn’t want to come back and bite her now that things are smoothed over (at least they were post Nappa and pre fashion show).
I’m sure it goes both ways. Melissa has also talked trash about Teresa.
I believe Theresa is in on it. If not, why is she still friends with Kim D. Whouldn’t she be mad that her “friend” set her and her sister in law up. Theresa was supposedly in a good place with her brother finally. Why would she still hang out with a person that caused their relationship to sour again. It doesn’t make sense to me given how vindictive we’ve seen she can be. Kim D. would be on her _hit list. But, she’s not. That is very telling to me.
If I had a sister in law like Melissa… just sayin. I guess I felt the same way when Melissa was hugging and kissing and partying with old lady Kim Grantelle last yr before during and after the last Posche Fashion show. Why would you be friendly with people who hate your family? Must be a common happening in their particular family.
Plus who says they’re friends. I am pretty sure none of these people are friends. Just because Kim D hates Melissa (and it is not clear why) does not mean they are friends.
Another blogging site said Jacqueline was tweeting the day of the PFS that she really didn’t want to go and wanted to take Greggy with her for protection. Can anyone search back that far?
And Jacqueline is still friends with Kim D. as well. THAT is very telling.
I had the same thought, SEV. At the Gorga’s Christmas party, Melissa and Joe had no part in the set up that Kim G tried to pull off w/Monica C against Teresa, and they made her leave. It appears that Melissa has had nothing further to do w/Kim G. And yet…Teresa has no problem with Kim D – and continued to play along with her, even as she was clearly setting up Melissa. If she was really in a good place with her brother and sister-in-law, she would have shut that mess down, told Kim D off, walked out, and had nothing further to do with her. She didn’t – because she was helping this whole thing along. 😉
I thought the same thing a few days ago but someone said that Mel and Joey G were recently tweeting nice things about Kim D. So the same goes for them.
Also it could simply be the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality.
Now see if thats the case the I really dont like Melissa. If this is true then it proves she will do anything to break Tre and her brother apart.
But here’s the thing Lady C, was the Fashion Show required attendance? I get the feeling it was….strongly.
I heard that they were all expected to attend (of course, Bravo insists that no one is required to attend any event). I was referring above to Teresa walking out of the salon. She didn’t have to be there. And once it was clear what Kim D was doing, she should have left. The cameras could have continued rolling, but w/o her. If she went to the show (NOT in Kim D’s limo) and took up for Melissa when Kim D set off her bomb, her innocence would have been more plausible.
I thought about that too. Did Teresa have her car or did Kim D pick her up? Also, I think we can agree she is not a fast thinker and she said her heart was beating fast. Was she is a bit of a shock? It looked that way to me.
But was it really clear that Kim was behind this, I don’t think so. It’s so easy to sit back with hindsight and say what someone SHOULD have done but not so easy when one is in the middle of something. Again Teresa is held to impossibly high standards.
See I don’t agree that this is an impossibly high standard. I have a sister (who is probably my best friend) and 2 sister’s in law that I like ver much. If a man walked up to me and said, your sister-in-law (or sister) used to be a stripper, and I didn’t believe it to be true, I would immediately call her and tell her what I heard. I would do it from the salon, in the moment it was happening. I don’t think this is a very high standard, to ask your close friends/family to be supportive of you out in the world. Also, it was obvious that Kim was behind this and Teresa stayed with her and rode in her limo. It implies she was ok with these antics.
Again hind sight is 20/20. But in Teresa’s defense look what did happen when she told Melissa what this man said. immediately Melissa was up in arms, calling her husband and saying bring it bitches. There is no way Teresa could win here, no matter what she did she would have been accused of things. Teresa may have needed time to process this. in all fairness saying what Teresa SHOULD have done in that moment is the same as saying that Teresa was behind this. Teresa didn’t know what this guy was going to do and she may have wanted to wait for a private moment to talk to Melissa. I feel this was the wrong time and wrong place to immediately call Melissa. I absolutely do not agree that it was obvious in any way that Teresa had anything to do with this. I don’t think she did, there is nothing to gain in this for Teresa.
And remember she’d just gotten over the whole don’t talk about my wife thing from Lil Boots who felt no compunction about bringing up a 6 month old private convo on camera in order to humiliate Teresa. She prolly felt she was screwed no matter what. And guess what? She would be right.
But in my mind, if you have a healthy family dynamic, there aren’t “private” conversations about eache other. It’s especially hard to imagine having a private conversation about someone else’s spouse. I can’t imagine calling my sister 1. to bad mouth her husband and 2. assuming that that would be something that would be kept between us. These aren’t high school relationships, these are marriages, with young children involved.
Hopefully there is also none of the treachery of a sibling who would hold a conversation in confidence for over 6 months only to release it on camera in order to humiliate you and sully your name publicly. My brother and I could speak privately without bringing our spouses into it, BTW.
Totally agree with your post. I don’t know if Teresa is in on this set up, but I do know that Teresa knew that Kim D was and did nothing to stop it, both at the salon and by riding with Kim D to the event and not addressing it with her. At a time when she says her relationship with Melissa was great.
I don’t think she could stop something that she had no idea was going to happen.
Not only that but if Teresa did say something to Kim in the limo, Bravo could of had it edited out. IMO.
There were probably cameras with them the entire time. When could Teresa have confronted Kim D.? And how was Teresa supposed to know that this guy would show up at the Fashion Show? She may have figured the threat was over. Coulda, woulda, shoulda… how many times have you said that about something you should have or should not have done? Doesn’t automatically make you guilty of something. And none of us have cameras following us around. That adds an entire different dimension to what Teresa could have done immediately.
Also Teresa was working for Bravo doing what she was contractually obligated to do. Bravo had to have arranged the beauty shop event and the limo ride otherwise no one would have had mics on so they could be heard.
Another thought- through this season and last, I have been thinkijng about how locked in and betrayed Teresa must have been feeling through both seasons, and how many times I would have wanted to quit, in her shoes. Especially with a producer working against her, and all fighting her. Now at some point, if I were her, or her agent, I would have clearly sat down with ANdy/et al at Bravo and aggressively discussed how difficult and unfair the 4 on 1 was- just look at the end of S3 and all of S4- why the heck put up with being betrayed, etc. I know she needed money and itis a great platform but it must have felt horrible to lose your friends, have your personal life exposed, and no privacy on any level- esp. when the SIL and cousin are deliberately going after you so openly. And your firends are buying the lies they are thorwing, from Teresa’s standpoint.
At some stage, I would bet she made some overt efforts to get ANdy to change the story line and make someone else the victim. I would not be surpirsed to learn Andy had told her about the producer going too far and being fired, and had talked her into continuing with the show – they were under two year contracts, not 5 or six year ones and 4 would be the end of the contract, right? Teresa and Joe are too proud to endlessly agree to put up with this-much as the income is crucial-. So I am wondering whether T knew enough to know that 1) the storyline would change and they would not be the bad guy for a change, or 2) they knew specifically what was planned for MeGo.
I may be wrong, but thought I saw enough in her eyes to know there was a real reason to distance herself from whatever was coming.
I’ve never seen a camera slow Teresa down when she wanted to confront someone. She has torn into lots of people (Danielle, Kathy, etc.) on camera. Kim is clearly driving this, why not confront her?
They are all friends with Kim D, not just Teresa. With the exception of Melissa I think.
The rest of the cast are pinning this on Teresa. What good would Teresa fighting with Kim D do, if anything it would make her more and more isolated.
Not to mention, Melissa and Joey are still friends with Caroline after watching her scream at Teresa and call her all kinds of horrible names steaming from an argument that ‘angel Kathy’ and angry Chucky facilitated.
Exactly. And not only are the friends with Caroline, at least Kathy talked about Teresa to her. That’s NOT okay. Again it’s Teresa being held to a higher standard.
So true.
For the same reasons Jac is still friendly with Kim G. A woman who not only encouraged Danielle to call the police on her daughter Ashlee when they were going at it on Facebook, who actually went to court with Danielle to support her when Danielle pressed charges against Ashlee. (Remember the busted up sex in the city?) the same woman who showed up at the Gorga Xmas party to cause trouble for her then friend tree and the Manzos. The same woman who has bad mouthed her SIL Caroline on the show and in the media.
Why? Maybe it’s because the kims know all the scoop and what they don’t know they can easily find out. Maybe because they will happily spread dirt for the other ladies to ensure their own 15 minutes. Or maybe, just maybe, they are following the old adage “keep your friends close, but you’re enemies closer”.
What is a friend withbtheae women, really? Someone you hang out with, chat on the phone with everyday and share parts of your life with? Like the friends we all have in the real world? It seems to me, too many people think sharing camera time having staged conversations and outings or exchanging faux niceties on twitter constitute a friendship. I think, personally, these ladies have more of a business relationship with shared superficial goals. They aren’t what most people would consider “friends”.
Excellent points. Exactly how do we know Teresa is really friends with Kim D? Fact is we don’t, they film together and that does not make them friends. Teresa went with Kim D that night because they were filming together and Bravo arranged for them to ride in a limo together not because Teresa was such good friends with Kim D. If this is all people have to try to prove Teresa had some hand in the set up then this is very weak evidence.
Hard to draw a parallel w/Jacqueline – hell, she wouldn’t let go of her friendship w/Danielle, until she brought a lawsuit against her daughter. And then, it was probably Chris who shut that down.
So that’s a reason that it’s okay for Jacqueline and not Teresa? Again, we don’t even know who’s truly friends with whom. Not only that, we know Teresa isn’t the brightest bulb in the box, so she may not even realize Kim D. DID set it up. No one else has mentioned she did.
I’m not excusing anyone – I’m simply pointing out that Jackie maintains relationships w/people that she should let go of – long past the expiration date. Her insistence in holding onto Teresa is yet another example.
My take on last nite’s show. Reminds me of the time we sat around a campfire telling scary stories. Ray began one..great set up, kept us on the edge of our seats. Then came a loooong pause & he said, “And nothing happened…”
Exactly. It was much ado about not much.
yet.
Thanks for all you do Baroness!
It was a string along… for ratings.
Exactly it was really nothing until Jac and Melissa turned it into SOMETHING.
If Melissa was a stripper or affiliated with a strip club, word would get around town. North Jersey is like a small town and people seem to be able to fish out people’s past life. Kim D is not the only one who knew about it before last night. Its not a big deal anyway.
I think the issue is the Gorga’s feel Teresa did something so sneaky and backhanded to them, although it looks like DD found an article from Sept 30, ’11 that states Melissa was a bartender, not a dancer. I guess the rumor lasted three days and was refuted by her manager. Fast work to control the rumors.
Sounds like collusion. Did she ever admit to knowing Angelo? DesignerDiva infomed us that Angelo was not her actual boss. Regardless of whether or not she ever danced, it was skeevy of him to say that the customers were upset when stopped dancing at the club. yucky man. did he think he would be a recurring castmember? He must have, why else be such a jerk on camera?
I am so confused now, I am afraid to venture a guess. Just have to wait until next Sunday, but at this point, I don’t believe Teresa was a part of the setup.
I hope someone brings Kim D. down though, and I hope her business fails because of her hateful act in tearing this family apart, again.
Angelo insists to this day that she was a ‘dancer’, not stripper, and that she also bartended. His interview is on allabouttrh.com
He also insists that Teresa had nothing to do with this.
I don’t see this guy as having a lot of credibility.
But we don’t really know, do we?
I really don’t know
Sure, but if he said Teresa didn’t play a part he still wouldn’t be credible.
Honestly, what would Teresa have to gain by having it come out that people think Melissa was a stripper/dancer since the majority of the viewers don’t really care.
If anything, it seems like Joey and Melissa like taking things that Teresa says off camera and bringing them to light on the show, re the gold digger comment.
I kept getting that “Back to the Future” vibe last night – actually two episodes in a row. We get to see the “play date” talked about after the mani/pedi adventure. Wacky was invited but wearing her Caroline installed shock collar and not allowed to have fun with Mel and Tre.
Now THIS has me rolling on the floor! Windy, are you a writer? It is the perfect analogy. A toast of Fabellini to you.
I taught Communication Studies for 25 years. I know Nonverbal Communication. Theresa was afraid & upset when Kim began to talk. Now of what, no one knows for sure.
I hope next week something happens cause I don’t wanna waste another hour. But I’ll be on the blog with youse guys either way.
Have a great day!
Dame, what do you make of that look on Melissa’s face when she saw Angelo at the fashion show
Good question! Recognition & puzzlement…whether she truly wondered who he was or rather why he was there is the conundrum.
Hmmm, very telling. Thanks, Dame.
Teresa gets that same look when she’s guilty. She gets it as soon as Kim D starts talking. She does not have a good poker face and shouldn’t get involved in these games, because she gives herself away. I can see it in the way she holds her mouth and the way she shifts her eyes (and blinks).
She looked shocked and stunned to me.
Lady C you are convinced of your convictions….Bravo has played us all for fools. What seems to be is not, what is real is not real…it is all smoke & mirrors, to get ratings. Nothing more, nothing less. Alls we really know is that it is still Teresa vs. Angry Chuckie’s crew. Look at Teresa’s twitter, she hasn’t even mentioned the show. Maybe it will all be explained/unexplained in her blog.
Teresa is over these people. She cares more about her family, the ones she loves & that love her back. And making money off of her ventures. The rest of them continue only to be relevant when they talk about Teresa.
I agree bluesky.
I thought she looked at the camera and her eyes said, “sh*t, here we go again”, and not to do harm to Melissa. To me she saw herself being set up. jmo
Sorry this was Teresa’s look.
I agree… she sort of rolled her eyes and it looked 100% genuine. It was exactly as you said… “sh*t, here we go again.” A lightbulb went off. It was not a look you would give if you were the one in on something. If she were, she would have probably looked down or watched for Melissa’s reaction.
Good Morning everyone! Thank you BB and NMD for the recaps. I missed NJ last night. Watched Boardwalk Empire instead. I guess I did not miss anything. Why when the sh#t hits the fan Kim D and Kim G are always part of the set up? We really only see those two once or twice and then at the end of each season they are there causing trouble.
Kim D’s tweets screams that she wants to be a regular on HWONJ.
This is a Bravo set up. I don’t think Tre had anything to do with it. Jac is a dim bulb.
Great Blog on RHONJ, BB! I so agree with you. Thanks Nomoredrama and Boston with your hysterical pictures!
This episode was like “The lost footage” They took scenes from here and there and nothing made sense…
What was hard to watch was the Teresa’s kids party, where Jacqueline is with her baby alone and on the other side Audriana (who is a couple months younger than Nicholas) is following the game with the rest of the kids…
I think that doing Season 3 and 4 back to back, ruined this franchise, they don’t have where to go after so much (bad scripted) drama. I’m done with all this nonsense.
Last night someone mentioned that we will see some damning evidence against Tre in the CC. Someone else responded that you can’t trust the CC on Bravo.
It’s not just Bravo, the CC is often wrong. I’ve mentioned that I have a BIL who is deaf. I’ve watched TV with him and caught a lot of errors on the CC.
I hope you can give us some insight as to whether the CC is accurate next week or not.
CC can be really strange. I’m sure it’s computer generated and must have an autocorrect type feature. Sometimes the words make no sense. And I have even seen whole lines of dialogue skipped.
But I think some people are suggesting that Bravo is changing dialogue on purpose. I don’t know about that.
I read something from Bravo and to me it wasn’t damning against Teresa at all. It said something about her being in for a surprise. Doesn’t make it sound like she’s in on it at all. If that’s the one you’re referring to anyway.
Good morning everyone, thank you all for the Bday wishes. They made me smile and laugh. Well, I think it’s plain to see that Teresa was set up last night though I hear that some still insist otherwise, LOL. Bravo has finally done it for me. I am done with these hw’s shows. They are so scripted and Bravo thinks their hand is invisible in it all but I think most of us can see the claws now quite clearly. And it’s not working anymore. I find myself watching less Bravo and less HW’s. I don’t watch reruns anymore. I barely keep an eye on the whole episode when I do watch. It is no longer must see TV for me. In fact it’s become must feel bad after viewing TV.
Last night I had Bravo on all night though but only because I played during the day and had a ton of laundry to do last night. I watched Kim and Teresa in the salon 3 times! Kim D played her like a fiddle, bringing her attention to the sparkly champagne glasses and waving Angelo away for ice when Teresa was starting to take a stand against what she may have been starting to realize was a set up. Then Kim insists that she just wants to know one more thing and Teresa walks out of the room. I do not for a second believe that Teresa wanted any of this to happen. It’s a shame that Bravo tore up her real life reparative efforts with her family all for the sake of a lame story line in their fake soap opera. Bravo’s willingness to sacrifice the lives and relationships of real people with real families at their altar of ratings, popularity and a falsely presumed smug hipness has just become too much for me, They wanted me to judge and to snark . Well now I’m looking at Bravo and as I judge them I find them wanting. Superficial and scheming, negligent of the mental health of the real people they employ, it’s just become revolting to me. It’s come to the point where I am embarrassed to be associated with anything Bravo. I don’t want my daughter to see me watching it. I don’t want her to watch it. I don’t want it in our home any longer.
Yes, I’ll finish viewing the public humiliation of Teresa; I’ve always finished books, even the poorly written ones I didn’t like. But I’ll always remember what Bravo did and, like ABC/Disney that cancelled OLTL, a real and quality Soap whose dangers were left behind on the set, I won’t forget and I won’t give my ratings to it. Oh and Andy Cohen, YOU SUCK. May all your clever snark bite your own arse one day soon and may you feel the same pain you have caused to too many of your reality cast members. Not all of them, for even I would not wish for you an end like your cast member, Russell. In my opinion, were it not for Bravo’s RHWOBH show, Russell Armstrong would likely be alive today for G_d’s sake!!!!!!!!! I only wish for you to be smacked around publicly on twitter and to be misrepresented and falsely witnessed against and have no one believe you. You should feel the weight of sadness you have brought into the lives of so many of those who made your own pockets fat.
Bravo Pres Lauren Zalaznick, the very same goes for you too. You said TV had a conscience. You said this was a judgement era. Well, I posit that you and your ilk helped to perpetuate this trend and got rich from it with less than half the effort that properly supported scripted drama would require including forfeiting the sanity of cast members who found out too late that you turned their real lives into reel lives from which there was no escape…ever. Whoever said the Soap Opera was dead was lying. They just use real lives at cheaper cost now. So thanks for feeding us viewers the lowest common denominator. You feigned fashion and sophistication but in reality you are little more than paid programming. Bravo TV but I’m done feeling like I’ve been rolling around in the sewer with you. I’m done. done, done.
Thanks for this post. Last night made me feel dirty and regretful of the many hours I have devoted to watch Bravo shows. It is obvious that the last thing Bravo was interested was in the family getting along. They wanted blood and they got it.
Much like you I am rethinking my options when it comes to Bravo. 😦
Standing ovation! Who was it who said “stupid is as stupid does”? Does Bravo think their viewers are stupid? Well, we watch these stupid shows, and then we complain about how fake these stupid shows are. We know it isn’t real, but we watch anyway and complain, comment, speculate, and offer advice to the housewives and to Bravo, the very folks who treat us like we’re stupid. We keep going back for more. So doing the same thing again over and over expecting a different result is the definition of crazy, right? So what are we, crazy or stupid? Elinor Roosevelt once said that no one can make you feel inferior without your consent, and in my opinion, that’s the situation here. Bravo thinks we’re stupid and we’re playing along. I’ve tried to be “done, done, done” with this crap for so long, but I keep coming back, so I applaud you for this decision, taking a stand and sticking to it. Love, love, love it!
Want to start a support group with me Tin Man? Thanks for that Eleanore R quote. I’d heard that once before but now that I see it again, what a keeper.
You said it Disgrazia, exactly! I’ve been enjoying other activities again – even preferring some cleaning so you know it’s serious. I’m not sure if I’m up for anymore. BB and All -Thanks for taking the bullet for me! The blog seems to be inspired though this morning. Truly, if this guy was Melissa’s boss why should it be a problem to say hi, how’s it going, he was my boss, when I worked at his strip club. Let her make whatever explanation she wants to. All of us have had to admit to making some dumb mistakes. Perhaps Melissa’s real embarassment is that after putting all that out there and believing she was God’s gift (like her daddy taught her), all she ended up with was Joe Gorga. Bwwhhhaaaaa! Poor thing. Oh well, they give us a good reason for being here.
Disgrazia – belated happy birthday. I hope you have an excellent year.
Lainey Lainey or someone – would you please email Detox if you can? I’m so worried about her. I’ve had 3 friends pass away much too soon because of pneumonia that went untreated. And since that happened 2 people who I pushed into going to the doc did in fact have it. She needs to take care of herself to be useful to her mom. If anyone wants to send me her phone/email info I’ll get on her myself.
Yes, Luv My Gals – I will cut and paste your message to DETOX now. She will see your message about the pneumonia (that’s not something with which to take chances!) and also I’m sure she would be fine with you emailing her, but I will let her read your desire to communicate directly with her. THANK YOU!!!
i just emailed her, LMG.
Lainey,
Please let Detox know that I hope she gets better soon and we miss her on the blog.
ok,Atl n nyc… I will tell her now. 🙂
Youse guys, all youse guys are A-OK in my book. Just so you know.. 😀
As are each of you. I have to agree with every word you said, Disgrazia- I also said I was embarrassed to be watching the shows last week. I used to look forward to Bravo shows and really enjoy them, I have hoped for /called for coonstructive change. Ther is none- and they have reduced themselves, anyone on any of hthe shows, and viewers to the lowest of the low, in my book.
I think it started because they thought it was fun to pretend to have the same agenda for each series, but as they went from city to city they chose personalities they presented as aspirational in lifestyle, but actually set them up to be subject to private ridicule and laughter- and it built from there. It was one thing to find the faults of each individual while aspiring to their lifestyle- but by season two the agenda changed- table flipping and questionable behaviour became the agenda- add Danielle’s book, Scary Island, JIll’s catty histronics and hostility, etc., etc- divorce, betrayal, bankruptcy, White House break ins, mental illness, while also showing aspiring climbers, liars, poor parents and every version of people with agendas, and the seriousness of the personal losses grew, as did Bravo’s desire to charge the agendas with drama and open warfare- all for viewere ratings. It was interesting and had potential in the first years, but it all was destroyed as Bravo personally decided they were kingmakers, and could play with people’s lives in ways that were not superficial. Shame on you, Bravo- I am appalled that I listened/watched as long as I did.
I think you are right Diane. As they mocked their own cast’s human foibles, those faults became exaggerated by their own edit and those editorial aspirations had the unintended (or intended?) result of mocking us, the viewer. At least that is how I feel.
you too, boo
Well, we already know who the real Don is in RHONJ. Kim D as ALL of the cast continues to be friendly with her except Melissa but her husband is friendly with Kim D. One wonders…………..
Bravo writes the CC when they appear.
Lauren and Caroline’s “gloating” at the closed Chateau is all fake – but what else is new? The Chateau moved :
>>..Since then, the Franklin Lakes-based salon has been featured on the show several times and business has been booming, according to Castro.
The shop recently moved to a new location at 799 Franklin Ave., expanding into space that adds a flower bar, gifts from Coco and Bailey, clothes from Maluka and a bar stocked with cappuccinos and other drinks.<<
Published 1/26/12, i.e. well after we saw those two up-beat, charming women in the empty space.
http://wyckoff.patch.com/articles/chateau-salon-continues-to-offer-hair-and-beauty-treatment-at-new-location
Fake story lines with no regard for the damage their stories might do to real businesses.
Exactly. A pox on them all.
My kingdom for a horse. (ooops, wrong play)
Good morning all – and thanks for the great job with the blogs!
… off to read comments… 😎
Do any of you get upset when someone is ” two faced”? And then get more and more upset when they get away with it? And then you wonder if they will ever be seen for who they(her) really are? I think this is how Jaq feels. That is why she is so upset. I lay awake stewing over things like that. And then you become vindictive. Just another way to look at it?…..
I would tell Jax to focus on her children…that would put things in perspective. This wasn’t even her fight, not her family.
She wasn’t even on the same page as the other ladies, she wasn’t even reading the same book.
that’s good nighlight95.
But the question is- From which face did Jac observe this?
I think “two faced” is how I feel about Jac.
And I see Jac in the dilemma of giving up her friendship with Teresa because Caroline demanded her to do so – Albert financed Blk and Chris is financially beholden to his sister’s husband.
Tracy – I do understand why Jaq could come to the conclusion that she no longer wants to be friends with Teresa. I can even see what you mean by her stewing over her getting away with being 2 faced. But you lose me at becoming vindictive. I hvae had opportunities to be vindictive against people who have hurt me and I choose not to retaliate. It really is the easier and healthier path.
What did Jaq do that was vindictive? I think she thought about it too much and let herself get consumed by it. She is upset with herself too
I guess you might not be on twitter but Jac has went totally off the rails and off of script on their in regards to Teresa. She has posted pictures of their text messages to each other, especially regarding a picture of Juicy Joe and another woman.
She has been tweeting venom about Tre all year. Also, her blogs have been scathing and vindictive about Tre, her marriage and her children (the nerve). Also, on her appearance on wwhl she was foaming at the mouth about tre and had some final words as they were signing off and came off looking foolish and vindictive. Especially with the way Andy and Carole were looking at her.
Tracy- I never said Jaq was vindictive You suggested it in your post “And then you become vindictive.”
I don’t think Teresa would make the best friend. She is very self centered. So I can understand Jaq and even Caroline choosing to not be friends with her. What I can’t understand is why it is all or nothing with these women. They either love you or hate you. I know many people I choose not to be friends with, I can’t think of a single person I want to hurt.
Bingo!
I agree that both Jacqueline and Caroline have seen Teresa betraying people that she claims to care about – and they’ve concluded that she can’t be trusted. Jacqueline’s problem (one among many) is that she doesn’t know when to just let it go, for Pete’s sake. So what? Teresa’s not the friend you want her to be? Be friends w/someone else. And if you can’t generate enough storyline on your own, your time w/Bravo is done, new chapter in your life. I applaud Caroline for moving on (if this is, indeed, her last season).
Caroline and Jac and not exactly saints, although they portray themselves as such. there is something wrong with people that pretend to be saints and hate on others so much.
I really dont. Its not my style. Im a big believer in karma and evil only comes back to you. Two faced people are easy to avoid if you want to. If you choose to entertain them, then you open the door to their treatment and kind of deserve what you get. Then again, I really try not to sweat the small stuff. Life’s too short.
In therms of RHONJ, its basically been 4 women trying to set 1 woman up for the past two years. Jac isnt innocent (although the tries to be) and she has played a big role in Teresa’s troubles.
I think it is hard to walk away or avoid evil if you have a Bravo contract that won’t let you.
Tracy – Which is why it might have been hard for Teresa to walk away from filming the Poshe Fashion Show even though she suspected a set up!
Envy would drive a person to say and do the things that Jac has said and done, too. Two-faced is what Jacqueline is…pretending to be Jacqueline’s friend and then attacking her oncamera with the Bitter Clown in tow. That is pure two-faced, double dealing behavior. I’ll bet Teresa gets really upset when she thinks about how two-faced Jacqueline has been. Of the Three in that scene…Caroline has been an outright bitch to Tre’s face, so I wouldn’t put Caroline in the two-faced section. JUST JAC!!! – with jazz hands. …(homage to Will and Grace)
Agree, to disagree.
But Tracy, I used “jazz hands!!! LOL!
Who is Teresa two faced towards? Melissa and Kathy? That’s only to say if they really aren’t the people Teresa said they were. I have to say I don’t think Melissa and Kathy necessarily good people, at least towards Teresa. But they are family. And if you’re considering Teresa two faced, then they all are because they were all talking behind Teresa’s back and being friendly to her face. If Jac doesn’t want to be friends with two faced people it makes her, wait for it… hypocritical… does it not?
This episode felt more like people saying their good-byes, more specifically the Manzos. Their good-byes wrapped up in lies. Richie saying Kath smells like fish was DISGUSTING! Jax gets along with her daughter because she shipped her off, so she drinks and focuses on Tre. Melissa tries so hard to be cute and funny and both are major fail like her music career. Oh, and this was a set up and this had all to do with people behind the scenes, I don’t think it was the Manzos, these were people out settle scores and producers who knew the season was a major fail. Again, Tre and her daughters would be better off with their own spin off show.
I think you are right. Kim D settled her score with the Gorga’s and showed us that she is a big cheese in that town. Or Bravo did by organizing events so that is appeared that way.
GOODBYE!!!!! goodbye sweet MANZO’S!!! don’t let the door hit ya!!!
I think Prince Charming Richie said his wife tasted like fish. Just repulsive!
It did feel like the Manzos were taking their final bows, didn’t it?
Those Manzo boys were really scrambling to make sure the red queen would enjoy breakfast. I know I walked out of the room while they were on the screen but the Clown even say thank you?
She said it smelled and to open a window.
at first I thought you were talking about klmh’s septic tank – now i see it was angry chucky
Good riddance to the red dragon and her motley crew.
BUH-BYE CLOWN and CLOWN POSSE!!! buh-freakin’-bye!!!!
I want to scream! I see Kathy Wakile’s blog is up. I just read the preview, it says on the preview,
“Teresa didn’t call security to get rid of this loser. What was he doing there? She had to have known what his intentions were.”
First of all, it wasn’t Teresa’s place too. Wasn’t her party! It was Kim’s party and Kim’s guest.
Her nose is so far up…. Omg, I want to scream at her!
It’s more satisfying to laugh and point “omg… hahahhahah…. dying laughing”
It makes me feel better. Someone as irrelevent as Kathy is not worth your elevated blood pressure. lol.
True dat
If Tre had called security then Kathy would have said Tre called security she knew what was going down or she wouldn’t have called security, Tre was in on it. Teresa can’t win with these people, no matter what she does or how she reacts she is wrong.
I woke up late, didn’t have breakfast and it’s raining today—What the hell Tre?!! Why do you hate me so much????
Well youve got to give it to these trolls. At least they are consistent. They all play the Teresa card and blame her for everything. Nobody takes responsibility for themselves.
Nobody blames Kim D for inviting Angelo. Melissa still has admitted to being a stripper and she obviously feels some shame about it other wise she wouldnt makes such a deal out of it.
Jac and Clown will immediately start attacking Teresa and make all of this her fault next week because they will use any ammunition, no matter how ridiculous to support their hate campaign.
This is the worst group of jerks ive ever met. No wonder why Teresa has nothing to do with them anymore.
*hasnt
Oh my word did Teresa even know he was there? So now the all powerful Teresa was supposed to call security at an event that was not even hers. Kathy is ridiculous.
It looked to me that teresa didn’t even realized the guy was at the party. he approached the ladies from behind so Teresa didn’t see him coming until he was in front of them.
I know many will say I am naive and I admit… I am somewhat of a gullible, naive person regarding many things…. but… I don’t think there was a set up. I think this occurred just as Angelo said it occurred and the looks on everyone’s faces were natural reactions as to what was going on. Kim D realized this was reality tv gold and it showed. If Mel G and Joey G weren’t so paranoid, then the drama would not have spiraled out of control. Mel panicked! I wish people would embrace their pasts, instead of run from them. Own it… and it usually disappears… react to it… then it gets played out for a year. Mel G and Joey G project… meaning… they schemed and connived to get onto the show… so when something like this happens…. they believe someone schemed and connived to make them look bad. Kim D said it best, when asked on Twitter if she set this up “of course not. shady paths follow a person wherever they go. believe me i was not needed to facilitate anything” Mel G needs to learn how to react to it… because if the stuff we read has any truth to it… her past will continue to be re-lived if she stays on this show.
I believe that this season has partly been about trying to make T look just as bad as Mel and JoeG. Hence, bringing up the whole gold digger thing on camera. Joe and Mel did that… not T. Mel and Joe G are trying to excuse their behavior prior to getting on the show by saying “Look, Look!!! T is trying to expose us too! T is just as conniving as we are! See! Everybody see! She said Mel was a gold digger… See! See! she set Mel up at the fashion show! Did you see it! Did you see it!.. We are the innocent ones..not T!!!” Meh
My last thought is this: I don’t think MelG dancing in a bra on or behind a bar is a big deal. And to this whole scandal, I say “Really, this is all you got Bravo?”
Anyways… this is just what is rumbling around in my head… I don’t think we will ever know the “truth”, but it is fun to speculate!
I agree with most of what you say but the spontaneity theory doesn’t explain Angelo being mic’ed up before the scene.
right. I innocently showed up to work today. Ok, that’s laughable cause here i am…posting… be that as it may. No one has mic’d me. There are no cameras here (that I know of). So I think it’s going to be a regular work day. Free of sabotage and set-ups. My point? work avoidance? hee hee?
I agree… that throws a wrench in my theory… Angelo said that everyone in the salon was mic’ed, so an explanation for that could be that once the producers saw T’s negative reaction in the salon… they knew something was up and continued to put the mic on him at the Posche show.
It’s like “Who killed JR” Who done it?
I agree to the point that somebody found out that Mel worked in that club and didn’t care if she was a stripper or waitress, Mel couldn’t deny she worked there and that’s what producers wanted. So was there a set up yes but I don’t think it was Tre or Mel or even the Manzo’s. Kim D found out, was beefing with Mel and Joe and was going to settle her score. Producers didn’t care if Kim was correct or not, juicy gossip. That what this whole season devolved too…gossip.
Kim D.’s face had guilt and pleasure written all over it, even when entering the salon.
Happy Monday All…
According to this article ,Angelo Voorhees WAS not Mego’s manager..Larry Guarino was…things that make you go hmmm…This whole story line is getting old..
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/former-boss-real-housewives-melissa-gorga-was-never-a-stripper-2011309
I think the most distasteful part of last night was ICKY RITCHIE and his display at the meeting… I dont understand why these women allow themselves to be so disrespected by their husbands… But then again, look at how they disrespect themselves by appearing on this show…
Thank God the new fall line up starts SOON !! YEA…
REVENGE ……Finally.
have the day off from work…debating whether do go do laundry or play on the puter all day..!! Decisions decisions…
Mr ford has been doing the daily house work since I went back to work…YEA..it’s good exercise for him to sweep and vacuum and mop…He even has a fresh pot of java waiting for me when I get home..What a guy…Guess I’ll keep him…
FOOTBALL.. Time to get rid of the replacement refs !!!!!!!
Off to read some more…Great blog today..Thanks Bunches..
Finally… The SET UP… I think they ALL are guilty in some way fashion or form…I am however confused as to WHY Pete Guidice was there….I am sure there is a whole other BACK story to that…winks
later all
Hugs and Peace
Diva
LOL! Why was Pete G there?!
Disgrazia…So weird that pete g was there and people saying they THOUGHT it was Joe G…. wasnt this the same night that Joe G was seen having dinner at TGIF with some blond haired chick ??? Is that what Whack Jac and Carolclown were looking at on WJ’s phone ? The pic that someone took and sent out of them having dinner ???
Also..got to thinking about the LOOK on Tre’s face,, sorta reminded me of her look at that the last Fashion Show when she so “innocently ” wanted to JUST say Hello to Danielle…haha…we all know how well that turned out..
Oh snap! I forgot about that whole dinner thing!
But Teresa’s face didn’t look to me like she was bursting to say something. It looked like WTF is going on here?!
How’d you like the Steeler’s game, Diva? How about Redman? And Big Ben was playing strong.
You know, my husband was pointing out that these substitute refs are college refs – they shouldn’t be making these mistakes….
TV guide said who was picked for Miss Revenge’s mother.
Caroline seems like a miserably unhappy human being attempting to portray the exact opposite.
Sometimes I wish I had her problems… she lives in a palace and wants for nothing. But then with the open secret of her husband fooling around and her empty life without her breastfeeding sons… well, I’d rather be me.
And her treatment of Lauren shows nothing but pure SELF loathing. It’s like the Law of Mirrors. People who say hateful things about others are usually telling you what they hate about themselves.
I believe that. Her house seems large and empty.
Wow, that 3rd paragraph of yours is deep, Amalfi. and so very true. when my oldest was a senior in H.S., he had a bad case of “senioritis” after having been nearly perfect (causing us no problems for the most part). I was so hard on him that year, but guess who else had senioritis and then let things fall through the cracks when SHE was a senior? that’s right? He reminded me of me and I worried he too would end up making less than stellar choices like I had. I had to make a conscious effort to stop being negative. He’s doing fine, by the way and we’re very proud of him. (yay!!)
And now, here is something that is not too deep to balance out your mature and intelligent observation. That house of hers is so big and empty…. how empty is it? It is so big and empty, her farts probably echo. Imagine it. Ok, and now you may laugh or shake your head. or both.
Omg Lainey… hahaha… falling over.
She should appreciate her many blessings. That is the saddest part of all about her.
‘Out of the hearts abundance the mouth speaks’. Caroline shows us her heart by the things she says and she always must have an enemy to hate.
Cosa Nostra style
I don’t know if this pic will post..
It didnt. This is for you Katty Pie. http://photoshoppedpics.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/kattypiecousin.gif
Copied Bethenny? I don’t watch NJ so I don’t really know what it’s about.
Welcome if you’re new.
the last several blog posts have been extraordinarily good reads. great job, gals!!
nice name, lady balls 🙂
hahhah ty!
Welcome if you’re new. I agree that the blogs are great. Thanks to all.
i’ve been reading for a couple years. i don’t comment much because i rarely concur with the opinions here but that’s why i enjoy reading the blogs so much– besides the fact that the posts are so well put-together and written. it wouldn’t be any fun to read posts that reflect exactly what i’m thinking. it’s way more entertaining to read other points of view.
Would love to hear what you think lb. Its good to get different opinions. Brings things into focus that might make things clearer.
i liked tre until she said something at the first season’s reunion that turned me off. she said “I think i’m awesome.” she said she was raised with her father telling her she is awesome. she said she is awesome with no sense of humility or humor. to her, her awesomeness is clearly just fact.
she’s the oldest and she had kids first. she says her brother used to come around all the time to her house and see her kids, which were the first grandkids. it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure tre was– for a number of years– the center of the universe in that family with everyone revolving around her.
along comes melissa. then melissa’s kids. the attention gets spread out…….
if you’ve ever hung around someone who feels entitled, you know it ain’t fun. if tre made melissa feel badly when melissa first came into the family, it’s not a stretch to imagine melissa wanting to make tre uncomfortable when possible.
i think it’s pretty clear tre was set up and i think tre had this coming.
bravo is very good at making some housewives appear wonderful in their first season and slapping those same housewives down their second season. i liked melissa a lot all season until this episode. her reactions were “off” to say the least. there’s clearly a whole side to melissa we’ve yet to see.
Actually, I couldn’t agree with you more about Teresa. Nice post. Im not sure about Melissa either, but she has been aggressive with T. on the Danielle front, but apologetic for her actions too.
and btw, it may be fun to note that when tre declared her awesomeness the edit jumped straight to caroline who kinda did a nervousy giggle. when tre noticed the giggle, she said “no, seriously.”
if caroline is a hard like a bulldog and dina soft like a wet noodle, it may indicate something about their upbringing. maybe they had an overly dominating father or mother. if that’s the case, then it’s not a stretch to figure why caroline wouldn’t like a pampered, self-centered boob like tre. in other words, it would explain why caroline can’t say the one BIG reason she despises tre because there is no one big reason.
the one thing people who weren’t pampered as kids can’t stand and that’s adults who were pampered as kids that have never grown out of it.
Does someone remember the date of the Poshe style show? Was it the 27th of Sept. I’ve tried to find the timeline but have been unsuccessful. Tx
Yes..it was the 27th…
Lynn blogged about it.
Tx.
klmh, Thanks for posting that video the other night on adult onset ADD. My gut hurt from laughing so hard. I caught it last night. Now if I could only find my keys…but look, here’s the computer!
So glad you got a bang out of it too. I recognize your last sentence too!
All of them are saying next week someone forget their mic is on and that is how they know Teresa had something to do with it. To me it honestly seems like Teresa is freaking out because she’s realizing she’s getting set up. I am curious though, why they all still think Tre had something to do with it. I’m smelling Set Up…by Bravo.
Bravo has invested two season in the take Teresa down storyline – since everyone at the salon had a mic on and Teresa didn’t take the bait it was on to the fashion show for round two!
Everybody knows Bravo set this up with Kim D aid. Bravo will not admit to it or take responsibility. Even though the bold headed guy was mic’d. I think Kim D told Bravo…I’ll help but don’t blame me for it. So, this how next week Teresa will take the blame Bravo is banking on their editing, voice over etc etc to make sure us viewers conclude it was Teresa. They’ve been building this all season long.
We all know Teresa is not a gifted speaker and and has a hard time expressing herself. She also has a temper. We again will not know what and when whatever they play next week was said. I again DISTRUST BRAVO PERIOD!
Hi You all. I just want to throw this out there..Sorry if I am repeating myself. Remember when Teresa shoved Andy? I have a feeling that after viewing it and probably getting a bit teased about it, Andy got really pissed at Teresa. Add in the gay slurs that he seems to only hear Joe G using and he decides that he has had it and is personally going to try to ruin Teresa. Remember, any one of her books far outsold his and she even commented that she ran out of her books at a signing as so she was just signing copies of Andys book that were on the shelves. He has a HUGE ego and I really believe that while she might make him a lot of money, his ego and image mean more to him than Teresa. He also makes a lot of money from Bethenny, Ramona and even Vicki and Nene. IMHO, I do think that Dina was pissed that the girls didn’t back her up when she quit, especially her sister. She didn’t speak to any of them for awhile. She didn’t speak to Teresa until she learned of Teresa going on Cel.App. and she wanted Teresa to choose Ladybug for her charity on the show. I think Jacqueline is very naive and never really grew up. She seems very led by others and her own daughter said she was like a 12 year old. I don’t think she has a mean bone in her body but her mind is very young. Just a few thoughts. Peace and love to you all. Excellent blogs!!!
Hey Sammy’s Mom,
You may be on to something about AC’s ego. Only one correction to make. AC doesn’t get any residual’s off of Bethenny. It was after Bethenny blew up, that they started writing it into their contracts, that they get a kickback since they are using the show to showcaset their products. I don’t know how it works if you have an established business like Yummie, maybe she gets to just exploit the show for he own benefit.
thanks.
Maybe – but can you really trust anything that Bravotv puts out? They have taken scenes out of date, reused crying fits, made up phone calls, taken conversations out of context and dubbed voice overs! Sorry not gonna buy it – Teresa is probably right that Jacqueline has more to do with it then anyone else! Jacqueline is one messed up cray cray person!
Teresa knows the game and I think her reaction was “oh no they are gonna set me up to take the fall for this”, it was genuine. This is why we know so much about this PFS episode – Teresa called out these women that night and she nailed it. Jacqueline was and is behind it, IMO. She is a vindictive and vile human being – who skipped the reunion to avoid dealing with it. She did the same creepy manipulative stuff to Danielle. Why is she texting, spreading rumors and going to talk to Melissa at the fashion show – because she is the instigator of EVERYTHING! How would Jac know when and where Teresa got her makeup done and what was talked about at the salon? All her twitter rants, her mother – and the kid asklee – who acts that way? Not stable and last night on WWHL she was awfully subdued (maybe they had more Xanax for her?)
Yep whoop, your right. Anytime their is Teresa drama, Jac is somewhere behind the scenes lurking. She’s obsessed with Teresa. Its quite clear now. Since they can no longer be friends, she wants to destroy her.
I somehow thought it was Caroline that was the problem but it is Jac. Its always the quite ones.
Bravo has some clips up from next week’s episode. Adds a little more pieces to the puzzle. IMO, Teresa was definitely set up by someone in the cast, Kim D or the producers.
In one of the clips Jac says she received a text about Angelo and how we was going to set up Melissa and she alludes to Teresa knowing something about Melissa being set up. Total bs and Jac once again is in the Gorga and Giudice family issues. I have to give Caroline credit for staying out of it.
Jac should just say who sent that text and it would be pretty revealing. She won’t because it wouldn’t further her agenda. She is a pawn and a willing participant.
Lame lame lady. I feel sorry for her kids.
Its funny how whoever keeps trying to set Teresa up for a take down keeps failing miserably. She seems to get more and more of the audience on her side because of these childish antics.
They are such amateurs
I find interesting the title of the episode “A bold Canary Sings” The producer that got fired Twitter handle is “yourfriendkitty” and as name Cat.
Was yesterday Lynn’s 1 month anniversary?
😦 it was?
If Melissa would have just owned up to being a stripper (a la NeNe Leakes) or a bartender at a strip, it wouldnt be a big deal. She tried like she didnt even know the guy when the look on her face said she clearly knew him. Own your truth and no one will really care. When you cover something up, you look suspicious. It makes people question other things about you.
Seriously. I couldn’t care less if she was a stripper or ‘dancer”
She doesn’t need to own up to it she can no comment…. but to actively deny it if is true is really really bad judgment.
That’s if she really was a stripper. i don’t think any of us really know the truth but I feel that most of us aren’t really invested enough either way to care if she was one or not.
If Melissa didn’t freak out about it so much it would all pass because no one cares. It’s Melissa that’s keeping this alive by her reaction. Melissa could have just laughed it off but Melissa saw this as a way to go after Teresa, with Jac’s help of course. Is it possible that this is a publicity stunt, Melissa’s way of keeping her name out there? I see that as a possibility.
stranger things have happened.
Okay am not watching the shows and really have tried to re-frain from posting about the classless, tactless allaround poor excuse for a HW series NJ, but if Melissa was a stripper/dancer trust me, someone would be fessing up from the club, not just that random guy. The tabloids would have been inundated with calls from those who watched her strip, those who worked there as strippers, etc. Nene didn’t fess up at first, but when all these co-workers and clientele, former friends, family members, etc. started giving interviews to the Atlanta papers she decided to OWN the fact she was a stripper, I remember this because that’s when I first started asking my cousin in Atlanta for scoop. There little neighborhood of New Jersey is a VERY small area, everyone knows about everyone else. You cannot tell me that the only people that KNOW this huge secret is some smarmy guy she probably didn’t work for and Kim D. Not Buying It! In addition I asked some of the guys I know who do occasionally go to the Men’s Clubs, there are pictures, there are advertisements of your information in the clubs when you walk in, you are not some anonymous being that happens onto the stage, these girls have to promote themselves so they make their money. Again I call a BShite on StripperGate
NJ is densely populated. Honestly, there are no areas where everyone knows everyone else unless you’re just talking about a group of people who happen to all be friends. The housewives are also quite spread out even being in different counties.
If Wacky Jacky and Loser Lauren were getting texts at the table about the “set up” then why didn’t they tell their besty Melissa?
good question.
GOOD POINT!
Windy!!!!!! Excellent point!
My guess it’s because the text messages they were reading were about Juicy Joe on a date with another woman.
Then Jac was lying to Tre and Melissa when she said she got texts about Melissa being set up.
😉
Because they are lying assholes and trying to stir the pot?
ATTENTION PLEASE! Today is Dubyaveeyou’s Birthday. I totally forgot to let NMD know this so she could post it on the blog. My apologies. So, if you’re lurking today DUBYAVEEYOU, Happy Birthday! Hope you have a great day!
Happy Birthday, Dubyaveeyou!
Yes, a Happy Birthday to Dubyaveeyou!
Happy birthday DebyaVeeYou!
That was a Dubya with an accent doncha know?!?!?!
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Hey, Happy BDay, Dubya!
And how about them Mountaineers??? 🙂
Happy birthday to you, Dubyaveeyou! 🙂
I LOVE that Andy spent the entire After Show talking to Theresa the medium and having her do readings. Jac must not be all that interesting.
I have found that people who are not interesting are not very bright.
(Ok…found my keys, but here’s a bill I have to pay…..)
LOL- the flowers also need to be watered.
Where’s the remote?
I could find it, if only I had my glasses.
The Douche blog is up at Bravo.
(The Dish)
Wondering if we are all still posting with the intent that Lynn intended for this blog?
That means what?
Well Lynn intended for people to express their thoughts about the shows being blogged about and that is what’s happening. i don’t see any difference from when Lynn was writing the blog. I think it’s great that this is being continued because I think Lynn would want that.
Express your opinion without hurting each other? Was that not the intent? i think it was. I think we are adhering to that, do you think we are not?
Not sure….
Why are you bringing this up?
Because I feel that some comments have been a bit snarky. Even your Question is a bit? I am just saying how I feel. That’s ok, right?
Snark is in the eye of the beholder, Tracy. What you see as snark another may not see as snark. Perhaps, we need a snark police. Perhaps not. I don’t recall Lynn being anti-snark. Do you? Not being snarky, truly wondering if you perceived her as being anti-snark. From what I remember, and I could be wrong,… She just didn’t want comments to be intentionally hurtful to others on this board. Some people are sensitive and offended easier than others, though. So that’s kinda subjective, too.
Perhaps if we limit our comments and critiques to the housewives and not to each other…but who am i? I’m certainly not the snark police. If nominated I will not run. If elected, I will not serve. I still have a lot of snark in me to share.
Everyone is just saying what they think, how they feel.
I think snark has always been part of the culture of this site (I am including Lynn’s in this) but it was directed at the HW or other reality personalities and not each other.
Sometimes with us posters, wires do get crossed, either we read something the wrong way, said it the wrong way or were just having a bad day. I think it’s okay to when people say, ‘that hurt my feelings’ or ‘that makes me feel’, it allows us the opportunity to try an redeem ourselves if we hurt someone.
Lynn expected us to respect each other and express our opinions about the shows without disrespecting the posters we may not agree with. Those posters who disrespect are called out on it and that hasn’t changed either. Everyone is doing a wonderful job with the blogs, the posts and the feeling like we are still the family Lynn brought together.
This is the second time in two days that someone has implied that Lynn “might” not approve of the way the blog is being handled. I take offense at that. NMD, BB, Lady Chatterly and all the others have worked very hard to keep Lynn’s family together and her memory alive.
NJ has always been a contentious subject, even when Lynn was doing the blog herself. I think it’s a low blow to suggest that Lynn wouldn’t be happy with their efforts.
Don’t get upset, there is some agenda here just not sure what it is.
No agenda. I take offense to that.
I’m sorry you take offense, but you say things that seem to imply that Lynn would not approve of this blog now. You had to know that would get a response. I’m sure Lynn would approve of this blog and I’m sure she would be happy that the blog is still up and running and that all her hard work and time and energy meant something. I’ll just leave it at that.
If we agreed all of the time, things would be rather boring. No conflicted, no glory. IMO.
no conflict…no glory…
MamaZ, I have refrained from posting because the “would lynn want this” implications chaps my ass big time. I appreciate everyone who jumped in feet first while we were all still in shock. I also think most of us have gone out of our way to ensure Lynn’s motivation for starting this blog & the spirit of this forum stays intact. POV’s differ, what seperates us from the rest is the way “we”, Lynn’s virtual fambly, treat each other. I would like to think Lynn would be proud, those that have stepped up ARE doing her proud. Some of you have made amazing friends with each other. I know I was worried about Detox, especially after I co-signed Nancy telling her to get to the doctor. The update was a welcome relief, but we still worry about each other. That is to be celebrated & the core of Lynn’s heart. It has been one month & one day since we started the day wishing her a happy birthday only to end the day with the dreadful, untimely loss Lynn. No one will ever know what Lynn wants now but those who are trying to fill a huge void are heros to me. Lisa
After this season of Jersey, if I didnt have a Lynn blog to vent, I would be stewing about these housewives antics. Its therapy for me and much cheaper than going to a shrink.
🙂 I confess – I think I only watch, so I can participate in the blog.
I know, that’s sick….it’s probably time to let go of some of the Bravo.
LC- I am only watching one of the HW franchises NY, I catch TCM or TC on demand well after the blogs have been written, I come here for my daily “fix” of what’s going on and to read everyone’s ideas and thoughts and post some of my own. I heart this place and all the folks here and the most certainly I mega-heart the folks that are writing the new blogs and maintaining this area! I think Lynn would be super-proud
So true – and no matter what Bravo dishes, I just can’t quite this place! 🙂
Okay, well, I am posting the exact same way I was when Lynn was here, the blogs are being thoughtfully written in her memory, everyone is still the fun and snarky way they have been since this blog started, and many of us remember the older links so not sure what your point was and why you bring this up. Go back through the archives on Lynn’s pages and show where this is any different.
My two cents….
I don’t care for Teresa so much, but I don’t think she was involved in any shenanigans.
I like Melissa ok, but I do think she knew who the guy was the minute she saw him.
KimD’s hand are quite dirty and it seems she’s willing to do anything to be a regular on the show. All this happens AFTER she calls Melissa? Bitch. I would never shop at her store.
Oh…and Caroline’s a bitch and is just so jaded against Teresa that it’s really just sad. Teresa could solve world hunger and create world peace and Caroline would still say she’s a horrible person. In the end, I think Caroline’s just jealous. I also thought it odd what Albert said last night about Caroline being a bitch. That’s nothing something that just comes up in normal retirement-type conversation.
…and I wish Richie would go away….
Good post QBB. did you watch the AGGIES WIN against SMU??? nice for a change. How was the ring ceremony?
Lainey….I was SO HAPPY to be back in Austin and College Station….My daughter has her ring and can’t stop looking at it…it really is a beautiful ring. I thought of you when we ate at Plucker’s at Lakeline…
I had started to forget how great the food is in TX…Rudy’s, Chuy’s, omg…it was all better than my memory!!!
Next time, we’ll have to meet up! I had a mission this time.
Oh that would be so fun for you two. xoxo
yes, indeedy!!
It seemed to me that Kim D never allowed Teresa a chance to call Melissa to give her a head’s up. KD was with her all the time from the salon to the venue where the event was.
What exactly is Bravo magic? Why are some housewives afraid of it?
I want to say its more like the evil editing monster. People can be created to be a certain way that they dont want to come off on tv. Take a relatively bad comment and make a person look like a monster.
Kathy’s blog was long and very boring. I stopped reading it part way through but she sounds off her rocker through some of it. She was all pissy that men were at the event because if that was going to be the case, she wanted Richie there. Then Richie should have bought a ticket when they first went on sale. I also don’t know why she continues to bring Richie to business meetings…the vile that comes out of his mouth makes Dr. Dubrow’s skin flute comment look like a knock-knock joke.
Then she says how Teresa should have had security kick baldy out? Kick him out for what? Saying hello? Not to mention, on the step and repeat, I noticed that “Allure” was listed on it, so it was in part also their event too. I am guessing they did hair and makeup. Which makes even more sense now, by “Allure” and Kim D causing a ‘casino’, it made sure their event would be aired.
Richie was next door with Joey Gorga – how do we know – because we saw his nasty face in the background when Gorga was going after Kim D!
Yea. What is up with those two? Cant they ever not be involved in an event? Could those two bozo’s stay at home and let the ladies work through the issues themselves? Personally, if my husband was always close by when I was having a ladies night, going out with friends, etc. I would have a big problem with that. Its like Joey and Richie smell a bravo camera and gravitate toward it. Kind of like when sharks smell blood. Nothing worse than a male famewhore (so much worse than women).
Well, I guess they could have attended – I mean, if Pete Giudice was welcome, Joe Gorga and Richie could have dropped in.
Except we don’t really know why Pete was there. For all we know, his wife could have dragged him there and he was sitting in the back of the place and just happened to say hi.
I know it’s been a year but is it possible that the picture that went around of Joe with another woman at dinner was his brother Pete? Sorry as I know this was discussed a year ago but I have no memory left at all.
No since we know Pete was at the fashion show, plus when Jac posted her text messages to Teresa, she posted one where Teresa claims Joe told her it was a ‘fan’.
Pete’s pals w/the townies who were working w/Bravo and KimD to embarrass Melissa.
It will be interesting to know how many hours passed from the moment Teresa met boldy until they were at the show? Was he there the entire time they were getting ready? Did he or Kim mentioned to Teresa that he was going to the attend the show that night? Was Teresa told by production not to tell Mel or anybody in the “cast” that she had met Angelo?
Kathy spent 2 pages of her blog promoting and selling her QVC dessert line. Clearly shes very worried about the condition of her family and her and Teresa’s relationship.
So let me get this straight…everyone is upset because Melissa supposedly got “set up” by being exposed for working at a club that she actually admits she worked at?? Maybe Melissa should have had better judgement when taking jobs if she thought she might regret them later in life. Nobody’s fault but her own.
Everyone is upset with Tre for allegedly masterminding the set up. But no one is upset with themselves for the set up of Teresa for the past 2 seasons?? No one is upset with Melissa and Kathy and Tre’s brother for coming on RHNJ for the sole purpose to set Teresa up?
This show makes absolutely no sense anymore. If I have to watch one more season of the gang up on Teresa I am done.
Not only that, but from the previews next week it looks like Melissa point blank asks Teresa who baldy is and how is it that he claims to know her. The way she was speaking seemed very contrived to me. Why would she ask Teresa that unless she knew what was going to come out of her mouth….and she has her phone in her hand- while in the bathroom ready to call Joe.
Remember the soap star who was there and said she saw a lot of acting. My guess, is she meant Melissa.
If you watch the clip online, T and Mel are in the bathroom, Teresa doesn’t know how to bring it up to her and seems VERY nervous to say anything. I think the wheels were spinning and Teresa immediately realized she was being set up but didn’t know how to stop it. She asks Mel how she knew the bald guy and then says she has to tell her something, and immediately Melissa’s like “Okay I’m calling my husband to come here”.
Winston you summed it up about right. The season theme continues. EVERYTHING is Teresa’s fault. You would think she was in the black of the lookers strip club gettin Melissa boozed up so she could go on and do her dancing set.
You know, I was thinking this morning about all of the allegations of Melissa and Kathy coming on the show to “set Teresa up.” When have they done that? I haven’t seen them do a single thing to make Teresa look bad – Teresa’s done a whole lot of things to make herself look bad. But, now…suddenly, it’s Melissa who’s being set up. All of this screaming about how they were out to get Teresa was ridiculous – seems pretty clear to me that it’s Teresa who’s been out to take someone down.
I still don’t understand how Melissa was set up? Usually when someone is set up it is to entrap them or falsely accuse them of a crime, etc. Melissa did work at Lookers so there is no set up. Her former boss confronting her on the show is nothing more than that. She worked there, she has admitted that. End of Story.
Unless there is more to this story I am wondering why, if Melissa has nothing to hide, does she look so guilty?
As for Teresa being set up, where do I begin? The whole show has been a set up to take Teresa down. A current example was Kathy trying to have an “innocent” conversation with Tre in the jacuzzi about Caroline…with Caroline sitting a few feet away.
I understand how many do not like Teresa because she has many flaws. What I don’t understand is how her castmates have decided to pile it on her when they too are just as flawed as her if not more. Like I said before, it makes absolutely no sense. Everything they are accusing her of doing, they are guilty of themselves.
Being a stripper is a lot different than being a bartender in a strip club. Don’t tell me you don’t get that distiction. I actually have a friend at work who worked her way through college by working as a DJ in a strip club. She is similar to Melissa in that she lost her father at a young age and worked her way through college as a DJ. I think it’s totally different than being a stripper.
For me, working in a strip club is just as shady as being a stripper. Yes there is a distinction between a bartender and a stripper but working in a strip club period shows a lack of moral character.
Oh dear – I feel like I need to share here: when I was in college, I bartended in a place that one would call a “Gentlemen’s Club.” The girl’s didn’t strip, but they danced and dressed the part. I also dressed the part – didn’t dance. There is a distinction there.
I didn’t (and don’t) think it was an immoral choice – it was a way to make extra bucks which were badly needed while I was in school. Not selling drugs or selling my body or holding people up, so….I don’t judge Melissa for what she did.
The girls can’t strip in a place that serves alcohol in NJ. So the girls that danced, couldn’t have actually stripped other than down to a bathing suit. Big Deal.
Just because someone is wearing a very skimpy bathing suit doesn’t make it “no big deal.” The women are simulating sex acts, pole dancing, giving lap dances, just because no one is fully nude doesn’t make it any less sleazy than a strip club.
They can’t go full nude but can go topless in a place that serves alcohol. There are also clubs where no ‘skin’ is shown. It really doesn’t matter though, no one cares if she danced or not. This is all much ado about nothing IMO and if she did, she did.
Do you not think it a possibility that someone from production gave Mel a heads up and led her to believe that Tre was behind it. She (MEL) did have a kind of wounded look on her face when she walked in to the Posche thingy. imo
I’m thinking in those lines too. I think a producer or crew gave Mel heads up.
My take…
The Italian lessons were cute. Gia is obviously a better chalkboard teacher than her mother. Notice she actually got Milania to pay attention. Gabriella looked bored silly and is obviously still not comfortable with the cameras. The ‘play’ date was nice to watch and looked like fun for all. All except Jac that is. We now know she was dealing with bigger problems than her problems with Teresa. I hope she is now on the right path to getting help for that kid. Notice I said Help, not cure or recovery. At this point, those aren’t options but if she gets connected with the right people, unless Nicolas’s condition is severe, he can at least learn to function and may even have some hidden talent that will help him excel. Too early to know either way. I wish the Lauritas the best of luck with with their son, along with patience, they’re going to need it. When did these scenes really happen? Who knows. Who cares. It was nice filler.
Richie is going to be the death of Kathy’s business. She really should leave him at home when she goes to these meetings. Fortunately he didn’t tell the dessert people that his wife tastes like fish. It isn’t something that they needed to know and though the snarky jokes flew through my brain about it, I actually felt bad for Kathy after hearing that. Whether she does or not, isn’t my business and I put it right up there with Sonja’s action on the need to know list.
The Gorgas and the music people. Obviously MeGo is still under the delusion that she can be some sort of big pop star like Christina Agulara. I say she will never reach that level simply because she doesn’t have the talent to do it. If she wants to do her iTune songs and lip sync in clubs, God bless. I’ll never pay to hear it but I don’t like that genre anyway.
The Manzos… Yawn. I feel sorry for that woman Albie is seeing. Not because of Albie but because of the entire clan. If she stays with him, she is going to be competing with Momz Manzo for the rest of her life. Maybe by now, she’s seen that, maybe she saw it during that brunch. Who knows. As for her kids working hard to get where they are at… I say it doesn’t take much hard work to sign on to a reality show as a result of mom being there already. I don’t know what is going on with CaFace but apparently it’s still in operation which is more than we can say for the last ‘salon’ that was set up (for the show and for failure).
Fashion show setup – What is it with women named Kim and this show? First we see her call MeGo to invite her to the show because she walked in last year’s show. The obvious intent was to get the Bravo cameras there. Apparently, Kim had been talking shit about JoGo’s business for the last several month and she apologized for it, which M accepted and decided to go to the show. Next she invites the others and takes Teresa to her ‘stylist’ place to get ready. When they walk in, there is Baldy (I don’t remember his name). Why a guy who once ran night clubs is now in some off the beaten path salon ushering clients and schlepping drinks is beyond me but he’s there. Mighty convenient setup if you ask me (Bravo, KimD). I genuinely believe that Teresa didn’t have any idea who this guy was until he told her. This stripper-gate was set up long before this initial meet. While T left the room, KimD continues to pump the guy for info and he tells her that M use to dance at his ‘gentlemans club’. For a year, then it was 8 or 9 months, 7 or 8 years ago. His customers were disappointed to see her leave is what he said. KimD with her ‘woops’ tells me everything I need to know about who set this up.
Let’s fast forward to the time when all the women have arrived at the show and are seated in the booth. KimD says she will be nearby in at the next table. This is apparently not an exclusive event as Joe’s brother, Pete Guidice is also there (is this the one who helped Joe get the fake DL?). Kathy notes that this is just a club where the show is being held and she’s upset because she would like to have brought Richie. Why? I don’t know, he’s embarrassed her enough on this show already. Let’s get to the beginning of the deed. Melissa is talking to Momz, Teresa is talking to Kathy, both facing away from the crowd or room. Kathy is seated between M and T. Baldy walks up and starts talking to Melissa. He asks M if she remembers him and we hear her saying she remembers him from somewhere but can’t place it. That’s where part one ends.
Now, I’m going to wrap this by bringing something over from last night’s blog. It isn’t something that I would normally do but in this case, I feel it necessary. It was suggested, by NJBev, that T should have jerked Melissa from the table and told her what was going on. A notion, I called BS to. Yes, NJBev, that was directed at what you said. You have taken offense to that and now have the idea that I don’t respect your opinions. I’m sorry you feel that way but nothing could be further from the truth. I regret that I said it that way but I cannot take it back now and do what I should have done then and spell out why I thought you are wrong about it.
NJBev, I am sorry that I’ve offended you.
MTH.
GM Jeff,
Nice recap on the show. I hope Bev see’s your comment and all is well again 🙂
Good post, MTH. Gia is quite a capable young lady, isn’t she? She’s no dummy.
My mom and I were watching Jersey last night and this happened:
Stella’s mom: When does the Atlanta show come back?
Stella: I’m not sure.
Stella’s mom: The one who was building that house (Sheree) ain’t coming back right?
Stella: No she’s not coming back.
Stella’s mom: Good, she can pretend to be rich somewhere else.
I got a good laugh out of that.
Detox: I hope you and your mom will have a speedy recovery and feel better very soon. Take care. We miss you around here.
LOL- your mom is a hoot.
Lol, funny and so true Stella. ITA with your mom.
I love these exchanges – feels like I was there 🙂
danielle staub @daniellestaub
I’ve been hearing through media that @Bravotv @BravoAndy r suggesting I’m making an appearance on #Rhonj I am NOT making an appearance!
I would love to read a tweet by Danielle saying she is writing a tell-all book about the exchanges with Melissa, all the insider info she has on Jac and Caroline. If she is worried about being sued then she should write a book based on fictional characters and we can figure out the who’s who on our own.
If everyone is so heII bent on exposing Teresa for who she is, why not expose them all?
I would pay very good money to read this book, Danielle are you listening!
i might buy it. That’s saying a lot cause I’m cheapo beapo.
DETOX UPDATE #2:
I have sent her Luv My Gal’s message. Here is her reply:
“That is so sweet that Luv My Gals is thinking of me.
No, I do NOT mind at all if you put my E-mail on the board. Feel free.”
I will send her the link to the thread (from the first update) where everyone sent their well wishes so she can see how much she’s missed and loved. 🙂 Here is her email address for anyone who would like to directly contact her: iamdetox2012@yahoo.com
I am happy to pass along any messages, but if you wish to contact her directly she would probably enjoy that, too. 🙂
LaineyLainey – thanks so much! I owe you one.
Thanks for sharing Lainey!
Hi Detox! We miss you! Did you hear that Hollywood Exes got picked up for a 2nd season and they added Daphne Wayans, ex of Keenan Ivory Wayans?
Hope you are feeling better and your mom is healing well.
xoxo
Richie and JoeyGorga are perverts. I do not understand why anyone would find them funny.
Just take the solo show Tre. YOu and your girls are fun to watch. And when your husband isn’t having to deal with the cast of haters he can be too.
Ok, this may be going overboard on the how cute side of things, but I have been wanting to point outL: how super tender was it when Joe Guidice was giving Audrianna her bottle and Audrianna was in that baby state of still drinking her bottle and being half asleep but looking into her dad’s eyes… that was so cute…
Lainey – I love seeing a man with his infant child. 🙂
IMO everyone involved is guilty.
Bravo for being willing to wallow in the mud for ratings no matter who gets hurt.
Kim D for using this as a means to join the cast or get revenge on the Gorga’s for stiffing her friend.
Angelo for trying to get his wife on the cast – isn’t that the rumour?
Teresa for going not refusing to film as soon as she had even an inkling of what was about to come. I know she is dependant on Bravo for the paycheck since her criminal husband can’t earn an honest dime but she can reduce her means and work in an office or store like everyone else. Or for being too stupid to see what was coming.
Melissa because she knew exactly who this guy was unless she has worked at so many gentlemens clubs that she can’t keep her bosses straight. Just say hello, tell the other woman that she used to tend bar at his club and turn it into a non issue.
Kathy, Caroline , Jaq and Lauren for immediatley jumping to the conclusion that Teresa had somehow “set up” Melissa. Big set up, a goofy looking guy says hello. They are the ones who blew this up into a thing.
And lastly myself for watching this ugly crap. I stopped watching a while back because I hated what was going on with Jaq and Ashley. I didn’t want to contribute to it in any way. But I allowed myself to get sucked back in even though I disapprove of what Bravo and the whole cast is willing to do for fame and fortune.
Shame on me.
One of the best ever Mamaz. Couldn’t agree with you more, but we still have to see if there is more crap lurking just around the corner, eh? hehe
I love your last paragraph, MamaZ. I’m feeling a bit ashamed of watching this carnage, myself. Yuck. Bravo has no respect for its audience and I’m starting to lose a little self-respect here, as well.
Ditto.
SH site has some really interesting stuff regarding an email sent a year ago after filming the fashion show.
I SAW THAT.
It does make sense in many ways.
Do tell!
Please, I got 28% battery on my phone!
Email sent to SH a year ago regarding Mel and her tenure at Lookers
http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/09/17/melissa-gorga-that-damn-melissa-email-author-of-email-was-working-and-present-at-posche-fashion-show/
Had Melissa Gorga and her amateur pro-bono publicist not immediately went to the press and reality blogs, claiming Teresa Giudice and her friends tried to “set-up” Melissa – the cryptic housewife would have never ruffled the feathers of a woman who could very well be the biggest liability to Gorga’s simulated image.
The exclusive beauty director of the 2011 POSCHE Fashion Show was none other than Penny Karagiorgis, the owner of New Jersey’s full-service salon and euro spa, “La Chateau Allure.” Penny has a long history with Melissa, and knew Melissa long before her housewife days. In fact, when Melissa was casted for RHONJ, she actually called Penny [who she was not on good terms with her at the time] to boast. Penny, a well-educated former teacher turned businesswoman, was never a fan of Melissa ever since the self-proclaimed “Christian” worked as a stripper at her family-owned strip club [Looker’s Gentlemen’s Club in Elizabeth].
Melissa must have never took a moment to think about her own skeletons when she made it her mission to “…destroy Teresa Giudice…” As luck would have it, the minute filming began for Melissa she stopped speaking to anyone who knew her well, which included all of her best friends. The reason being? Melissa has much more to worry about than her stripper past. There is a reason Teresa never liked her, but refused to “go there” on the reunion [for her brother]. One of the [many] reasons being c*ckaine…
However, the major difference between Teresa and Penny, is a filter. Penny is not Joe Gorga’s brother, and therefore has no reason to bite her tongue while simultaneously crying herself to sleep at night.
This is evident in the recent Twitter war Penny and her husband [John] were in with Melissa and her unqualified publicist, who has since removed all of her tweets directed at the Bergen County family.
There is much more to Melissa than the Britney Spears character she tries to emulate. Joe did not meet Melissa in the romantic way of which they self-promote. Moreover, Joe Gorga was not even the man who Melissa was truly out for. In fact, the man [Mr. X] who Melissa obsessed over was a very good friend of Penny’s, who Melissa tried to strategically use to receive the approval of Mr. X and his family. That, and much more…
Any educated human being would think Melissa has some sort of psychological disorder for passive aggressively going after the one woman who knows more about her than she probably knows about herself. Maybe this is just the mentality of “Jersey rednecks.” After all, something many viewers, and especially none-New Jersey residents are not aware of, is that “Real Housewives of New Jersey” is not filmed in the area of the state where one would think the show would be filmed. Franklin Lakes, Montville, and Wayne – while all are safe, above-average communities to reside in – are certainly not [by any stretch of the imagination] the Manhattan (RHONY), Beverly Hills (RHOBH), Atlanta (RHOA), or even Orange County (RHOC) of New Jersey. In fact, Franklin Lakes is merely hanging on the border of Northern Bergen County [the wealthiest sector of the entire state].
The narcissistic Melissa and Joe Gorga may be coming after the Karagiorgis family in hopes that their bullying tactics will shut them up like it did Tre. However, this family is not stupid, nor desperate, and they know everything about Melissa from the manager who purchased her breast implants down to the hardcore dr*gs “Missy” and Joe Gorga used in the same party environment that their children were present in [multiple times].
The family’s twitter handles [where one can view the side of the tweet war which was not deleted] are as follow:
@PDKHair
@JohnnyTheGrk
@WillLoveInc
Pictures are enclosed as well.
Mel better be careful of that Johnny dude…it seems he’s sitting on more info!
Most of the housewives live in Passaic County. Whomever lives in Franklin Lakes, I believe, is the only one in Bergen County. That’s Caroline. I’m not sure where Jac lives however. She may be in Bergen too. I don’t know the town she’s in.
I call bullshite on a lot of the email, do I think this young man worked at the salon, yeppers, do I think that all of what he is saying is the truth, nope, loads of innuendo and gossip in there, with the addition that the “peggy” spoken about in the email has denied most of this. Again, working in a Club Bartending and stripping in a club definitely two different things. Don’t you also think that had Melissa been an actual stripper that the club itself wouldn’t be posting that around town, uhm yea they would! In addition they could easily provide information that she was “talent” and not an “employee” or “service” worker it would be in their employment records. Strippers are considered “talent” and have a different pay/tax and gratuity schedule from other employees(former bar worker here, not a strip club, but knew folks who worked in them and there was a BIG difference between the “talent” and the rest of the staff)
She’s already provided that, back in December: http://www.realitytea.com/2011/12/13/melissa-gorgas-payroll-sheets-prove-she-wasnt-a-stripper-dina-manzo-to-spend-holidays-with-caroline-still-friends-with-teresa-giudice/
Actually there were some problems with that “proof” Melissa offered. I read in on SH and it was quite a while ago but I think the problem was that it’s a different time period than when she was supposedly a dancer. As I said before, even if she did dance in this establishment, she could not have stripped other than down to a bathing suit. Apparently there are bartenders there and in NJ, a place where women “strip” cannot serve alcohol. Therefore, they really aren’t strippers, they are merely dancers. I don’t understand in any case why such a big deal was made of this. It’s quite pitiful.
Does Kim D. remind anyone else of The Crypt Keeper from an old tv show.?
She does. She also looks like a scarecrow with all that straw hair.
Ugh – and when she smiles…. {{shudder}}
Pure evil.
To the core.
To me she looks and acts like a Disney villain, like Cruella DeVille.
Why didn’t Melissa just leave the minute Angelo approached her?
I think because leaving would seem like she did have something to hide.
Did I miss something, again? I thought filming stopped after he left the table. We saw some previews, but I don’t remember Melissa leaving the table…
We haven’t seen the whole thing yet. M couldn’t leave the table because of where she was seated unless she crawled under.
Tx MTH. That’s what I thought.
She got up at some point before the crap hit the fan because in the previews, she is in a bathroom(?) with Teresa and starts asking Teresa about Angelo and where is it he think she knows her from (why would she ask Teresa that unless she already knew that Angelo talked to Teresa about her). Teresa says that Angelo has been saying that Mel use to dance for him then Melissa says she is calling Joey- Teresa tells her not to, then storms away.
Well no, RR, I didn’t expect them to sit at the table thru the next episode. I knew she got up, but don’t know when during the dinner or fashion show that occurred. It was mentioned that she got up from the table immediately, and no one knows that timeline yet.
I guess we will see next week. I just have a feeling that Melissa knew the game plan before she walked into the bathroom with Teresa.
What I meant was, why didn’t Melissa leavethe same way Jim Bellinno (OC) left filming when he realized he was being set up by Bravo. Telling the camera I am not going to put up with this, ripping mic off etc etc.
“Well, let’s just call your brother!!! nanny nanny boo boo!!!”
I don’t get that either…the whole ‘I am going to call my old man’ thing is so Renee Graziano, except that she didn’t say husband. She put the emphasizes on his relationship with Teresa. Too me she was sending the message that “I am telling on YOU”.
I think the paycheck is made out to Melissa Gorga, and Alexis receives the paycheck in her family. We kind of know J.B. was through with the show a while ago and refused to participate, but Melissa wants and probably needs the exposure and bucks. jmo
IIRC, Melissa was sitting in the middle of that banquette (isn’t that what that sort of half round booth is called?) So there wasn’t an easy way for Melissa to simply leave. Unless she simply flipped the table over to make her exit. Which might have been a good idea; look how flipping a table worked for Teresa’s popularity.
Reading all the recaps from different blogs and posts I think last night’s episode was a set up via Bravo producers. A lot of stuff being said about Mel’s past and Bravo decided to bring in the characters from her past to the show and see what would happen. Kim D. knew Angelo but Teresa did not. Tre was out of the loop.
That’s what I think look I don’t like ANY of the NJ folks, dislike Melissa as much as any of the others, just don’t believe this whole manufactured for TV stripper-gate which is a total farce! I call complete BS on this stripper-gate she worked as a bartender, did she sleep with, go after men with money when she was SINGLE and young, YEPPERS so what! What PJuicy and all the others are referring to is that Melissa was a party girl and probably slept with a few guys back in the day, and they are making this WAY bigger than it has to be.
It’s a lot of small timers who pretend to have more than they have, wanting to play Hot Shot and show that they’re alpha in their little enclave. It’s gross – and I don’t like that they’ve developed a TV show around it.
well, i’m just confused about everything and it makes my head hurt if i think about it. bottom line, we’ll never actually know for sure. it’s just an incredibly shitty situation no matter who was involved or knew about the set up or spread gossip or did nothing to intervene. i’m so over it. it’s sickening. i hate the producers most of all.
Rumors on twitter of Pete Giudice having some association w/these three townies that have been trying to work up dirt on Melissa and get their own spot on the show.
OK, here’s my theory. The person texting Jacq during the meal was Kim G. She is a good friend of Kim D.’s and both are pitting one family against the other. Kim D. fed the story to Kim G because the setup was made earlier in the day between Angelo and Kim G. Kim G and Kim D are going to go to hell, and Teresa is innocent. The end.
Well, what do you think? 🙂
Sorry, third to last line, Angelo and Kim D.
Oh and remember, Kim G said she saw it all go down when it was happening. Across the street, where her home is? Nope, on the phone with Jacq. At the table. With the phone. Murdering 2 families. Clue, anyone remember the game?
Kim G. And Kim D. are sisters in law. They also don’t always get along! Sound familiar?
I remember how close they were the first year. Im sure they worked together on this. Kim G hates T. and Melissa kicked her out of her house at the Xmas party. Made Kim G look ridiculous and petty.
Another piece to the puzzle is Penny the salon owner and her husband. They know all of Mel’s (and Joey’s) past. Mel and her sister’s have made some enemies and now they are singing all over twitter. Crazy stuff.
The question is, who was on the phone with Jacq during the fashion show that was feeding her that information about something bad going down against Melissa? Has to be Kim G. The clip of the preview is on SH. Teresa confronts Jacq about her telling Melissa Teresa throwing her under the bus. Lasts about 1.51 minutes. Explains a lot.
What is it with Kim D and Kim G? Bravo keeps them locked in a box and then let them out when the finale is filmed so they can add fuel to the fire.
Kim is saying that its in their contract to attend fashion show…
Kim G didn’t though. She mentioned it last year that although she received an invitation from Bravo begging her to be there, she knew the sh*t was going to hit the fan. She didn’t need to be there. She accomplished what she wanted over the phone. It seems so logical to me now, but I think simplistically. Maybe too simple? 🙂
I also think that Kim G was co-coordinating two battles that night, she was also sending Jac pictures of Joe with another woman. The story is some woman sent them to Kim and Kim sent them to Jac and that Jac warned Teresa that this woman was going to sell them. Personally, I think that Kim G had a PI follow them just so she could delight about catching Joe in the act.
I found this old article about it.
Thats interesting and probably true. Perfect timing for the two evil sisters-in-law, eh?
I remember that. Jacqueline and Teresa were not speaking at the time but Jac warned Tre about it coming out.
Warning? What a crock. Jac tweeted a pic of the pic. When she was called on it, she said she meant it to warn Teresa about it. Some warning.
I can see Kim D but Kim G has only been seen once all season (Mel’s Christmas party) Kim G is totally off the radar.
Nope, not to me. She was embarrassed because of the way she was treated at the Xmas party. She is a vengeful lady, as we witnessed the hateful comments and threats she made to ROH. If she was off the radar, why did Bravo invite her several times to go to the fashion show. She said they begged her.
I guess its not over ’til the fat lady sings and she hasn’t, yet.
HA! Just please don’t subject me to anymore pictures of her making out with Michael Lohan.
Oh no! It wasn’t me. You talk about a strange family…
Oddly enough, Wacky Jacky ran to Kim G’s house. The same Kim G who is an enemy of Caroline. IMO, Kim G is not part of the set up but does have grudges and watching what spilled outside the restaurant had to have her in stitches.
When did she run into her house WCW? Did she do it on a preview of the coming show? If so, Kim G is our gal without a doubt.
When Jac skipped out on the reunion she ran to Kim Gs house. She admitted that.
images of Pandora’s box dancing in my head…
These people need to be interviewed. The guy seems like he’s tired of playing nice and is ready to talk.
Really? Great. I bet he is getting slammed, wherever he is. Needs to go into hiding maybe 🙂 Did you hear that on twitter?
Another dumbass is Melissa —–Classic BB!!!! Love that line! Great blog BB and NMD!!!
Here’s my take
Caroline and Jaq—don’t want to be friends with Tre reason nonsensical
Scene with Mr clean telling Tre about Melissa stripping. Tre wanting nothing to do with it
Jaq—-coincidentally gets a phone call from a mutual friend at the exact moment everything is taking place????
Hmmmm looks like Momma Manzo and Jaq set up Tre just like they did Danielle. Jealously is an ugly ugly thing.
In the head shot of Jaq saying “Your disgusting.”—–“No dear YOU ARE!”
So who knew what went down at the Salon besides Bravo personnel?
exactly but more importantly why? I get the Bravo master puppeteers but who other than Jaq and Caroline would benefit from this? It’s clear a line is drawn they want Tre off the show just like Danielle.
You all saw what I wrote above. I posted it to the FB wall too. But I was thinking about the reunion and judgement and I don’t know if we’ll ever have a satisfaction from this ulcer ridden nonsense!
You know the NJ timeline was played with and the HW’s talking heads spoke along the faked timelines. For instance, Jac’s talking head regarding the invitation to the Fabbellini Launch pretended an ignorance at not being invited when we are all aware that Jac and Teresa were not speaking because of the Fashion Show debacle.
So my question is, Can they even speak the truth at the Reunion? Is this the reason for softball questions at some and ganging up on one? Can no one speak the truth regarding …the truth? If so, then what is the point of listening? Perhaps this is the reason I am rarely satisfied at the reunion shows. I am talking myself, right now, out of the need to even see the last two episodes. I am ever shortening my time left with Bravo. I will bring this question back to my FB Group. What do you all think? Do you ever think we ever really know the secrets of NJ, or any of the HW’s shows or is the game forever rigged out of our favor?
Excellent question about the reunion. So its a gang up on Teresa? About a stupid cookbook?
Well, if they’re not going to, not able to, delve into the truth then what else is there?
I believe there will be half-truths. I don’t believe we have ever heard the whole truth about everything at the reunions. We have to hear what they deem as truth and then their justifications. I would like to know from Bravo why do they have their sticky fingers in this?
I believe the ruse of half truths is what riles us viewers up so much. I don’t think the subterfuge works any longer. I have a theory as to why Bravo has such sticky fingers.
Fantasy Reality?
Exactly! But born at great price to the cast members real lives.
Hmmm…well, from his statements on twitter, I’d say Pete Giudice is very involved with these lowlifes:
Pete Giudice ? @PeteGiudice
@johnnythegrk I’m on twitter
Jan 23
Pete Giudice ? @PeteGiudice
@teresa_giudice I’m on and coming after all your haters. Beware.
Jan 23
Pete Giudice ? @PeteGiudice
@GigisMom11 @PDKHAIR @lisamarone Don’t worry Penny, me and The Grk got this shit.
In reply to maria feliciano
Jan 25
Pete Giudice ? @PeteGiudice
@BravoAndy You know I’m on twitter, wheres my follow?
Jan 31
Pete Giudice ? @PeteGiudice
@BravoAndy what happened Andy, you don’t want to follow me ?
In reply to Andy Cohen
Jan 31
Over several weeks, a twitter war breaks out between Giudice and Melissa’s hairdresser – won’t reprint it here, it’s pretty offensive. But, here’s where he takes it:
Pete Giudice ? @PeteGiudice
@Team_Giudice @actorguy1259 @SheilaGiudice3 @JohnnyTheGrk @PDKHAIR Time to let @BravoAndy & @bravotv we’re ready to play. Shit’s on now!
Mar 25
So, I guess Pete G’s appearance at the PFS isn’t such a mystery, after all.
Don’t these people have real lives? Doesn’t he have his own bankruptcy to sort out? Why is he getting involved in this BS? Maybe he’s angling for his own spot on the show – or maybe he’s just a nasty POS.
Okay, from what I remember about this from a while ago, even before last season, when it was just being speculated that Melissa was joining the show was that Melissa had slept with one of Pjuicy’s friends and I think she may have slept with some other guys when she worked at the bar as a BARTENDER, she was no “virgin” when she met JoeyG. Teresa and Juicy are “old school”, it’s okay that your mistress is a whore but you’re wife better be a virgin, this is their mentality. Melissa was a party girl no doubts about that, and I think that this is what they are holding as “evidence” or “proof” whatever. I believe this is why a lot of that side of the family has shunned them, I don’t really think they have anything truly explosive on her except this, IMO
I agree that it’s all a lot of bluster.
All of this twitter warring is just nonsense and ugliness. And A LOT of homophobic ranting. It’s really ugly to read.
This is crazy!
I think when a family is clannish, reputation becomes even more important. JMHO.
Now that all the background information is being exposed about Mel I now understand why the boring Manzo’s got so much airtime. This Mel thing is huge and Caroline and her spawn are just plain boring with no relevancy other than going after Tre about what was printed in a stupid cookbook. Manzo’s are totally irrelevant. Reunion is going to be a waste of time because they all will be attacking Teresa and we now know that is BS.
I am not watching this show nor reading other blogs that much and I don’t get where there is now some “magical” explosive information, there isn’t. She wasn’t a stripper, look I don’t like her and I would LOVE to hear that she was, but she wasn’t, not sure why everyone is posting she was with no proof, just gossip and innuendo. I think we are going to hear she slept with some folks prior to meeting Joey, this I believe she never said she was a virgin. I think Bravo is staging stuff for a very anti-climatic conclusion. Lookers Gentleman’s club would be posting all over the place themselves if she had stripped for them. I live in the land of the StripClub, Tampa is famous for them, I see the marquees around here and hear all the promotions on radio, these guys that run these clubs don’t have any morals that would keep them from earning cash off the back of some stripper.
And all of this will vanish, if and when Joe Giudice goes to prison…
And, I suspect that all of this has been brewed up as a distraction from what’s going on in the Giudice household.
It has nothing to do with the dancing, it had to do with how the dancing was exposed, imo., supposedly by family. They jumped to the conclusion that T. was involved.
I personally don’t think it is the stripping that is the issue. I think that is a smoke screen. There is something else out there that people close to Mel and Joey know.
ITA
T-Rex I didn’t think about that but you are so right! If Mel was a dancer at the club they would probably have pics of her and would advertise saying something like “Come down to Lookers where Real Housewif star Melissa Gorga got her start. Come check out video of her doing her famous moves”, something to draw in more Gentlemen. Like you said they would do anything to earn cash.
Check out this odd tweet that I got from Carole Radziwell today:
Ramona Singer @ramonasinger
2h
It was interesting. @CaroleRadziwill tweeted this photo. Proof from the hostess it was a girls trip! pic.twitter.com/7i8YN3Vm
The link took you to a picture that Carole had posted that said “Danger, Girls Trip in Progress”
Lady Chatterley @LadyChatterly5 @ramonasinger @CaroleRadziwill @iamHeatherT @SonjatMorgan @BravoAndy Carole likes to play all sides. She calls it being “Winston Churchill.”
Carole Radziwill @CaroleRadziwill
14m
@LadyChatterly5 @ramonasinger @iamHeatherT @SonjatMorgan @BravoAndy Hey, Its Winston. Can I be your lover?
Ha! Cute.
🙂 She’s wooing me back….I’ve just decided to drop my girl crush…
It just occurred to me to ask if this brother is the one Juicy used to get a drivers license. I mean they look so much alike that maybe they thought no one would notice it wasn’t him. I don’t know how many brothers Juicy has that’s why I ask.
I believe it’s the same guy – people ask if they are twins (they’re not, but a striking resemblance).
I think someone tipped off the DMV?
Maybe CAP, but I thought he was caught during a traffic stop
I think I have heard both, too. I had the impression that the police may have been alerted to the fake ID, once they made the stop?
Interesting read from famewhorgas. Originally posted yesterday prior to the show and updated Today. …
http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/kim-d-posche-boutique-owner-is-at-the-center-of-drama-she-benefits-from-exposing-melissa-gorgas-past-as-an-exotic-dancer/
Wow, this is a pretty strong argument that Kim G was in it up to her eyeballs. And that Jaq pulled a Countess.
Most interesting items from the blog – Caroline attending this Poshe Fashion Show when she refused to go in the past, Melissa trying to have Bravo film a different fashion show in place of the Poshe show, that both Jaq and Caroline shopped at Poshe after the fashion show.
Thks VV. It sure seems like the 411 was actually suppose to happen at the salon but only T showed up. Kim G has a condi across from the restaurant where the fashion show is and is watching & tweeting. Kim D and G are related by marriage huh. So they wanted to setup T for this? Why? I don’t understand what the beef is to setup T and get Mel’s past out in the open.
Lord, they cant find my septic tank and they are having to dig around my 60 foot tree. 😦
Oh no! They won’t have to cut it down will they?
No, but with the horrid drought here,Im afraid the roots have travelled up a bit. Its the most beautiful tree on our property. Have you ever heard of a Chinese Pistachio? They are supposed to be smaller trees but this one loves its home I guess. Instead of it being 35 feet across, its almost 60. The most glorious color in the fall too.
Thanks for helping me worry. They just found it. We’ve never had it cleaned in 37 years. Bad us…
It will be nice to use the toilets and showers again. 🙂
Good that they found it. 🙂
That tree sounds wonderful!!! But indoor plumbing is wonderful, too!!
Uh oh – that sounds ominous…surely, with all of the tech available, they can do something besides just dig around??
They found it, and I know that from, no, I won’t go there. Tx LC
🙂 Well, that’s a relief!
I’m sorry klmh. You’re not gonna lose your tree are you?
Oh boy. Yikes! I hope they start digging and find it right away.
Well, it looks like new lateral lines are in our future.
Have any of you cooked w/ancho chiles? They’re delicious – not hot, smokey and sweet.
I’m making a chili w/them – low fat (mixed lean ground beef and lean ground turkey) and black beans. Soak the chiles in hot water for 10 to 15 minutes then cut them up and puree them in a little of the soaking water. Cook the meat and beans, onion and garlic, cayenne and cumin in the puree, w/some beef broth and crushed tomatoes. So good!
OMG. I’m making chili too!
It’s that time of year – I was getting SO tired of salads and broiled/grilled meats.
Mmmm that sounds good w/o the ground turkey though. Enjoy!
Just made chili on Saturday. Not really cool enough, but we had to have it. This recipe sounds so good. Im copying it to try next time. I have never heard of those chilis.
Tx LC. I love recipes. Boston 02127 use to have a site that gave us some fab ones/
You can buy them dried – usually in the ethnic food aisle (where they have Hispanic and Asian foods). They’re very tasty!
I really like when we share recipes, too 🙂
Tx LC. I never would have found them.
If kathie wants us to believe that richie didn’t make the fish statement and it was pieced together then she has to also go with tre saying joe’s phone call didn’t happen like it was shown AND next weeks CC oh my someone says something on mic is also not truly how it was said.
No, no Jules. You don’t understand. Everything negative you see from the Guidices is TRUE. Anything bad about the Manzos, Lauritas, Gorgas and Waikiles is FALSE.
It’s very simple – Guidices BAD. Everyone else GOOD. lol
Thank you for setting me straight. Understand now.
The only thing you left out was that Bravo thinks viewers are stupid! lol
Ooo, that nasty ass said that, in one sentence. So gross.
I don’t know what Kathy wants us to believe but that was one fluid statement with only one meaning.
double standard.
Apropos of nothing, I recognize the restaurant where they had the fashion show. It’s right on the water in West New York, NY, across from the west 60s in Manhattan. It’s weird to see a place that I’ve been on RHONJ instead of just RHONY!
Meant West New York, NJ– it’s a real town, I promise! 🙂
BSide blog Big Brother Photocap
http://www.bsideblog.com/2012/09/big-brother-photocap-dang-son/#more-19005
Wow. I waited all year for the big Posche Fashion Show and this was it????
Well, there is always next week.
We didn’t talk about Caroline much….I love Albert’s line about retirement and finding out your life partner is a bitch!
I just heard that line. Caroline didn’t make any type of expression.
I think he hit her between the eyes on that one. I got a bang out of that.
Did he even say it or did Bravo edit it in? Richie the Fishmonger says Bravo does that.
I wonder how all of this will be played out on Melissa’s E True Hollywood story?
Bwahahahahaha!
VV, you go, you clever girl, you!!!
Bwahahahahah- oh my..please tweet that to her.
Im looking at a few minutes of NJ. Tell me why Kim D thinks it’s a good idea for her to put those long extentions in? They make her look older.
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Watching NJ. Manzo’s are at Chris & Albie’s apt. Why would Albie’s g/f move in with 3 (almost) guys? Did she have no home? No family? No friends?
Why is Caroline going around the table bragging about how great her kids have done?
Why doesn’t Chris buy some Crest White Strips?
YOu sound like Jerry Seinfeld tonight!! bwahahahaha! love that observational humor. 🙂
The housewives never know what’s going to be in an episode, correct? Some say they get it a few days in advance, some say they don’t. Either way, how can Melissa even know that someone gets caught talking with a mic on next week? None of the ladies could have known how Teresa handled the bald guy at the salon either. You would think after seeing it, there would be some apologies forthcoming. I should say should be, not would be. Although I’ll wait until next week to make my final guess at what happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone BUT Teresa was in on it to make it look like Teresa knew. But they didn’t count on Teresa not wanting to even let the guy talk. I’m so torn on whether or not I’m looking forward to this reunion. I’d just like to see justice in some form such as the truth coming out. I have a feeling I’m going to be disappointed in hoping for that.
They got the rest of the season before the reunion was filmed